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post #37 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

Originally Posted by Fourputt View Post
Not if the rough is 2½ feet tall like the native rough is on my home course.

I carry and use a driver. My success with it comes and goes, but that's true of any club in the bag, including the 3W. When it's bad, it's still not horrible... usually in play. When I bought the new Diablo edge I went with the 11° just to add a bit more height and a bit more forgiveness to my drives. It doesn't roll out as far, but it carries farther than the 10° that I demoed, so they seem to balance out about the same.

I also use it for punching out from under trees and such.... for me it's a good, low trajectory rescue club for some situations. I've saved a lot of strokes by having that shot in my bag.
You play on a links course?
Then all you need is a 3i, the ball will roll as far as a driver would go on a normal course.
post #38 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

Kind of depends on the length of the courses you play. If you're playing 6600yds or more, you'll be playing a lot of par 4s in the 390-400yd ballpark. This would leave you 170-180yd approaches on a bunch of holes, which as a mid capper is NOT where I want to be. In that case, I'd hit driver quite a bit. I play 6100-6200yds right now, and am working on NOT pulling driver on holes unless I feel I need it. Really depends on the hole, finishing hole on my home course is a little 350yd par 4 but it has the tiniest green you've ever seen with bunker left. My miss with irons is left. I hammer a driver on that hole with the hopes of cutting the little dogleg and having <100 in so I can hit a knockdown wedge. Anything over 120 and it's dicey trying to hit the green because it's so small.
post #39 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

Originally Posted by Fourputt View Post
Not if the rough is 2½ feet tall like the native rough is on my home course.
When I play a course like that, I only use driver on the driver holes - you know what I mean - one with either a large landing area or bailout in the direction of your natural ball flight. I've played a few courses that only have one or two driver holes on 18, but most around here have at least 1/2 a dozen.
post #40 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

Originally Posted by James_Black View Post
You play on a links course?
Then all you need is a 3i, the ball will roll as far as a driver would go on a normal course.
Nope. Denver is on the high plains at the eastern edge of the Rocky Mountains. The native prairie grasses can easily grow 4 feet high in a wet year. We had a lot of rain and cool weather this spring, so the native grass is tall. Even in places where you can see the ground and find your ball, most of the time you can't make a stroke at it.

My home course is a parkland style course, with trees and the native grass areas to cause problems for errant shots. The primary rough is mowed about 1-3/4 to 2 inches tall to the edge of the native, typically about 20-30 yards from the edge of the fairway. I hit driver on the holes where it's needed, typically on only 3 holes on the front 9, but on 7 holes on the back. The course is 6500 yards from the middle tees.
post #41 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

Interesting that this question is asked because I'm playing tomorrow and have been contemplating leaving the driver at home. It's weird, the last few times I've played I've been spraying my drives but then hitting my 5 & 3 woods great, even from bad lies. I'm thinking of just teeing off with my 3 wood which I've been hitting straighter and I can hit it about 200 yards.
post #42 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

Originally Posted by jetsknicks1 View Post
Interesting that this question is asked because I'm playing tomorrow and have been contemplating leaving the driver at home. It's weird, the last few times I've played I've been spraying my drives but then hitting my 5 & 3 woods great, even from bad lies. I'm thinking of just teeing off with my 3 wood which I've been hitting straighter and I can hit it about 200 yards.
Tee off with a club that gets you to comfortable yardage and a flat part of the fairway. If the hole allows run-up type approaches, that can stretch your "comfort" yardage a bit. Consider the fairways and type of greens on your driver decision.
post #43 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

Originally Posted by sean_miller View Post
Tee off with a club that gets you to comfortable yardage and a flat part of the fairway. If the hole allows run-up type approaches, that can stretch your "comfort" yardage a bit. Consider the fairways and type of greens on your driver decision.
That's why I'm thinking about going with the 3w tomorrow. I'd rather be 190/200 yards in the fairway then 220 in the woods.
post #44 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

Right now, I don't hit my driver at all during a round. I tee off with my 3 wood on any hole that's not a par 3. I can hit my 3 wood a lot smoother and a lot straighter than my driver. I still practice my driver at the range all the time, but I'm just not getting the hang of it yet where I feel comfortable hitting it during a round.

I love my 3 wood though.
post #45 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

My home course is 6900 from the whites, so if you don't hit driver well, your score suffers greatly.
post #46 of 57

Re: Do you really need a driver in your bag?

No, you don't need a driver.

Hit the teeshot that gives you the best chance at GIR's. 3wd, iron, hybrid, pw, whatever.

When i see an older member at our course(there is a lot like this) with a driver, 2-3 woods & 2-3 hybrids in their bag for a course that from the tips is a shade over 6100 yards it makes me really question things.

But hey, those oem company pension plans aren't free.
post #47 of 57

I've been thinking about this for sometime. I've been playing now for a few years (started after the 09 Open) and I've found that most of the time, I hate to play the driver. Here's the thing for me: My strength does not rely on distance. I hit the ball straight with just about every club in my bag. The driver I usually drive with is about say 230-245 yards whereas my 2 Iron I can hit almost at the same length. Personally, I prefer the feel of my iron game over my driving game so I often just use a 2 Iron off the tee. But that's me. Where I excel at in the game is my chipping game and I often try my best to create chipping situations. So I find even if I lose yardage off the tee, if I want to try and just par a hole on a par 4, using my third shot as a chip shot brings me in much closer for my put. But that's just me and my philosophy might just be garbage for another player.

post #48 of 57

I wouldn't take the driver out unless there was some other club I wanted to put in.  I only hit driver on holes where I think I can hit it .. ie . .wide fairway . .but I see no reason to actually play without one.  I've been playing for about 5 years now and this is the first year where I really feel confident with my driver so I'm hitting it more than ever.  In previous years, I would barely use it at all and instead hit 3 iron. 

 

For reasons I don't fully understand, I have never played with fairway woods.  I keep telling myself to go buy some . . but I never do.  This year . .for real. 

post #49 of 57
My Driver lands about 250. My 3wood only about 210. Oddly enough I am much more accurate with my Driver. I hit more fairways than I miss (57%) and when I do miss a fairway, it's usually not by much. My 3 wood has an exaggerated fade to it that my Driver does not. I hit my driver 14 times a round. Only hit my 3 wood 1-3 times at most.
post #50 of 57

I will go contrarian here...

 

When my handicap was higher, I couldn't hit anything and keep it in play.  Not sure it would have mattered if it was a 3-wood or a driver. 

 

Now though, with a much improved swing, I'd argue that my driver is the best club in my bag in terms of scoring.  I was useless on the week that it was in the shop for a new shaft.  The driver gets me to inside a 9-iron on the longer par 4s and within range of reaching the green in two on par 5s.  Though, I do hit the hybrid and three-wood (and sometimes even less) off the tee sometimes when a driver might be simply too long and invite trouble.   I rather like my driver and would sorely miss it if I didn't have it.  Absolutely no way would I play from the tips on my home course without it (almost 7K yards, 74.6/142).  I don't think I would be willing to play blues without my driver...

 

My toughest holes are the par 3s.  Those 3, 4, 5 and 6-irons into well-guarded greens are honestly the most demanding shots I have to hit.

 

And I'm sorry, don't hate... long balls are lots of fun to hit.  I would not enjoy playing golf without really letting it fly a few times a round.

 

I'd argue that if your answer is yes, you should work on your swing and turn that driver into a scoring tool. When you learn to hit it well, it shortens the course dramatically.

post #51 of 57

I think daSeth is on to something.  Driver is probably better used in the hands of a lower handicapper.  Or if you are one of those people that just have a knack for hitting it.  I don't carry one because I have trouble controlling it.  When I took it out, it bothered me to do so and I started taking note of other players and how well they hit it. To see if it was just me or maybe to gain some strategy on when it was good to hit riskier clubs.  In my specific observations of this, it is a score killer for most 18+ handicappers.  Lots of slicing it terribly into the woods - and blowing up the score.  I think to myself - if I would have broken that guys driver in half on the first tee box, would he have scored better today? 

 

It takes an 18 capper 3 to get to the green almost every time anyway - no matter what they use.  But instead of going 5i, 7i, chip - they go into the woods / water / OB, etc, back to the fairway, miss the green, chip.  You end up with a lot more doubles than bogeys. Getting to the green with irons isn't really as hard as it sounds.  But it is easy to get drawn in to assuming you should be on in 2 - even though that is not even close to the norm.  The thought on the tee box is that it looks long and I'll need everything I've got.  I also notice that there are a lot of terrible golfers who always play from the blues - which just makes thing worse.

 

If you have more fun getting distance than scoring well - obviously good club to have.  A lot of people think that way, and I think that is great.  But for scoring, probably best to hit the longest club of the ones you hit pretty straight.  You will score better than you think.

post #52 of 57
You should use whatever makes you play well. If you cant hit your driver than dont use it. Its better to be on the fairway and a little short then deep in the woods or a hazard. Just remeber they dont ask you what you hit just how many times you hit it.
post #53 of 57

My "old" partner use to say "short and straight beats long and wrong".  He backed it up with his score too.

 

It would pay me to leave mine in the bag more often than I do.  Someday I hope to make those extra yards improve my game, but for now "better" is more advantages than longer...

 

Yes, it hurt just a little to say that. b2_tongue.gif

post #54 of 57

On the other hand, Id rather be in trouble a long way up than a long way back! :0

 

Having said that, the chap I partnered on the weekend was driving all of 100-150 yards BUT he hit the middle of the fairway every single time which made it easier for him to hit the greens in regulation.

 

Regards

 

Mailman

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