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post #19 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by sean_miller View Post
I played a few rounds at our local pitch and putt (longest hole 85 yards - very small and hard greens) with 5 balls off the tee (36 holes - 4 rounds - it was a slow day there). I used a Wilson Staff C:25, Titleist ProV1, Wilson Eco Core, Srixon Trispeed, and a Srixon range ball. My goal was to see if ball choice mattered from 80 yards in. I also wanted to see if the limited flight range balls were just limited for long irons and woods, or if they were shorter around the green as well. The were pin high as often as any other ball, so for me they're just shorter with long irons and woods. I could maybe shoot the same score with a range ball, but I'd have to do some math while standing on the tee.

The range ball had as much spin as any of them, and I was actually hitting the ball fairly consistent that day. Regarding which of the better balls was the "best", I was comfortable with all of them, but for the long game I already know Wilson is the ball for me - either the Staff C:25 or the Eco Core depending on the day.
Good to know my observations and tests agree with yours sean!
post #20 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by golfro View Post
Good to know my observations and tests agree with yours sean!
Yeah, it's almost plagiarism, isn't it!!? I hadn't read your post yet, but I could have just said, "what golfro said except with these balls____, ____, etc, and with this final choice for me".

Going in I actually knew the range balls spin a lot because I'd hit a bucket of them to qualify for a hole-in-one contest out there and had to fly them just past the pin.

You went with the better ball for putting and I didn't notice a difference off the putter because that's not what I was checking. Next time out my focus will be solely on putting!!
post #21 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

So if you had shot a 76 with a prov1 would you say balls were important? Just because you played well one time with some random ball doesn't mean the ball caused it.

Some people really use the extra spin a pro v would add so I don't blame them, I PERSONALLY don't use them , but I'm not going to say they are all hype.
post #22 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by TN94z View Post
You probably scored better because the ball had less spin which helps out on your mis-hits. A hacker with a bad slice will only enhance that slice using a ProV over a top flite XL2000, IMO
Agree, although I would not call myself a hacker
I always hit the ball straighter with my woods and driver when on the range, I play a fade and unless I am having a very good day, if I use a ProV1 that fade becomes a slice on some shots due to the spin and I loose more shots, so I play the Bridgestone or Trispeed as much as I can as they have less side spin off the woods and longer irons.
post #23 of 80
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Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by bkoguy07 View Post
So if you had shot a 76 with a prov1 would you say balls were important? Just because you played well one time with some random ball doesn't mean the ball caused it.

Some people really use the extra spin a pro v would add so I don't blame them, I PERSONALLY don't use them , but I'm not going to say they are all hype.
I was still able to get the ball to hop and stop using the range ball, I was hitting the ball a little shorter though.
The best thing was that the ball didn't get cut up like a pro V.
post #24 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

again with this whole "prov1's get chopped up after two holes" thing...

how exactly are you hitting the ball...? do you have crazy lag like sergio or something? I've used prov1's quite a bit and honestly never complained about it getting cut up...all balls that i use get a bit roughed up after each round and I really wouldn't say ProV1's are SOOOO much worst than other balls.
post #25 of 80
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Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by golfro View Post
again with this whole "prov1's get chopped up after two holes" thing...

how exactly are you hitting the ball...? do you have crazy lag like sergio or something? I've used prov1's quite a bit and honestly never complained about it getting cut up...all balls that i use get a bit roughed up after each round and I really wouldn't say ProV1's are SOOOO much worst than other balls.
I have a 60* wedge, I like hitting low, spinning pitches. Pro V1's don't like low, spinning pitches.
It's not about how fast you swing, it's about how you hit the ball. I come down on it quite a lot and I also like to lay up on par 5's. Don't you hit full wedge shots some-times? The ball gets shredded, shavings of cover are left in the grooves and after a couple of shots like that the ball looks terrible.

Everyone I play with complains about how much they get cut up, maybe better players like yourself don't get into situations that need a 60* as much as I do.
post #26 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by James_Black View Post
I have a 60* wedge, I like hitting low, spinning pitches. Pro V1's don't like low, spinning pitches.
It's not about how fast you swing, it's about how you hit the ball. I come down on it quite a lot and I also like to lay up on par 5's. Don't you hit full wedge shots some-times? The ball gets shredded, shavings of cover are left in the grooves and after a couple of shots like that the ball looks terrible.

Everyone I play with complains about how much they get cut up, maybe better players like yourself don't get into situations that need a 60* as much as I do.
I see... I only really use my 60* for open flopshots, but i do hit full wedge shots with my 56*. My point is, in my experience, all balls get cut up after a few full on wedge shots, i just don't see it being so unique to ProV1's only enough to complain about it atleast.
post #27 of 80
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Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by golfro View Post
I see... I only really use my 60* for open flopshots, but i do hit full wedge shots with my 56*. My point is, in my experience, all balls get cut up after a few full on wedge shots, i just don't see it being so unique to ProV1's only enough to complain about it atleast.
V1's are the most played premium ball.
All premium balls will be the same though.
post #28 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Best i have ever shot was a 36(par) on 9 holes early this year. Did this with a top flite xl 7000 I think. Maybe a different number. It is definately possible to score well with a cheap ball, however my short game took a huge turn in the right direction when i switched to a more expensive ball. It could easily be a confidence thing but hey....golf is a mental game right.......maybe looking down at a ProV1 is what some of us need.
post #29 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Range balls spin like a bitch.

If you go to the range, practice hitting down on them and see how much they spin.

At an indoor range I go to, sometimes I do it for fun, and it nearly bounces backwards on the concrete floor with a bit of astro turf on top....
post #30 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

I think the smartest thing that the golf industry ever marketed was the confidence factor. Hey that driver wont help you at all and may even be wrong for your swing/game, but if you feel more confident in it then maybe it will help. Cha Ching $$$$. Ufcking BULLS**T.
The OP was talking about hackers too. Not people with a 4 index.
post #31 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by Joeyvee View Post
I think the smartest thing that the golf industry ever marketed was the confidence factor. Hey that driver wont help you at all and may even be wrong for your swing/game, but if you feel more confident in it then maybe it will help. Cha Ching $$$$. Ufcking BULLS**T.
The OP was talking about hackers too. Not people with a 4 index.
From my experience hackers notice spin off the tee more than a 4 index because they are putting so much side spin on the ball. A 4 index may notice it more around the geen. I think the "hackers" notice it, they just don't know what is causing it ;)
post #32 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by James_Black View Post
Do you want to do a review?
You'd be a better test subject.
Sure. Although when I test balls, I always play a shot several times with different balls out on the course. From the tee and into the green, a distance ball, and mid-spin ball and a high spin ball all behave differently.

If you'd like, I'll hit a range ball along with a Penta or V1 today from time to time and write down the results if you are really interested.
post #33 of 80
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Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by delav View Post
Sure. Although when I test balls, I always play a shot several times with different balls out on the course. From the tee and into the green, a distance ball, and mid-spin ball and a high spin ball all behave differently.

If you'd like, I'll hit a range ball along with a Penta or V1 today from time to time and write down the results if you are really interested.
It'd be interesting to compare the results.
Maybe play 9 holes using the 2 balls and compare what scores you get?
post #34 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by etlreams View Post
WOW! That's just all I think I can say on that.


I'm also a 13, so I guess my contribution to the discussion should be taken as such... but here goes.

I agree with the sentiment that the impact of the ball (and equipment in general) is pyschological. I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out if I should play a high spin, low spin, low/high compression, distance, etc. ball for my game. They do have an impact. High spin gives me good greeside control, and gets me in to trouble off the driver, sure. But I don't think the spin of a ball is THAT great of a difference maker. I know I'm not good enough to consitantly realize the benefits, and take advantage of, spin on a ball.

What I have been focusing on recently is the difference in balls and how they feel off the putter. I find a HUGE difference here.

I've really been focusing on putting lately, so perhaps I'm more atune to it.... but lately I'm coming to the conclusion that being confident in the roll and feel of the ball on the green is more important factor in a golf ball.
Man, that post of mine came across wrong (sorry). What I intended to say was that just because someone can shoot a +13 on a round with a range ball doesn't mean the ball doesn't matter. Perhaps he was swinging better, chipping better, etc... Who's to say a better ball wouldn't have helped.
post #35 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by James_Black View Post
I shot a 82 (par 69) yesterday with a 1-piece srixon range ball
Presumably, the people who hit them on the range think that they behave like golf balls should. What could you possibly be surprised about?
They won't spin around the greens very well, but everywhere else they would be just like any other ball, except they might not "feel" that great.
I have used all sorts of balls during rounds and the shitty ones feel like rocks, but I don't expect them to impact on my scoring for 99% of shots.
post #36 of 80

Re: Still think the golf ball is important?

Originally Posted by James_Black View Post
It's not about how fast you swing, it's about how you hit the ball. I come down on it quite a lot and I also like to lay up on par 5's. Don't you hit full wedge shots some-times? The ball gets shredded,
Agree with you here. I like to leave full wedge shots into most par 4/5s I can and the cover of the ProV1 seems a bit more fragile than the b330, TP balls or similar.
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