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post #37 of 64

The Pinhawk SL's are game improvement iron.  They are cavity back with undercut cavity . 

They are 3mm offset including short irons. Most players irons are offset .1. to 0.5 mm in short irons Due to shitty spring and health problems, I have barely played this year, but so far I think the PinhawkSL's are GREAT!





 


Edited by mlf16507 - 7/29/11 at 11:42pm
post #38 of 64

Hard to argue with mlf16507.  Although the design is cavity back with undercut cavity; not having progressive bounce as the loft increases makes it difficult for a high handicap slow swinger to get through the ball without taking getting hung up in the turf.  My conclusion is;  SL's are good  clubs, well designed but better suited for middle and fast swing speeds, where hitting through and taking a divit is not occasionally, a painful experience.   

 

On another note, I am not so sure that having multiple swing planes is a handicap.  I find that once you set up correctly for a specific club length, that the swing tends to stay on plane for that length.  After all, hitting balls on the fairway with either club requires adjustments for different lies, elevations etc, no matter which clubs you play.  Our brains are able to handle the many variations better than you might think.  Also, with the SL's I still  have three wedges, three hybrids, one wood and one driver that are all different lengths that I have to work with.  Even with Dave Lake's 1-Iron clubs, you have at least three lengths to deal with, (the irons, the woods, and the driver).  If it were only that simple, I would expect more than just two manufacturers of SL irons.  SL's are logical, but then logic and fact are often not the same.  

 

As of the past week, I have returned to my Ping G5's and playing better already.  But that's just me.  

Best to all.   

post #39 of 64
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Originally Posted by Red_on_the_head View Post

 
Haha, I actually have one of those adjustable irons too. I bought it as a novelty item for like $20 on ebay. I have never hit it.

The EQL's were ok. The only reason I didn't like them because the shafts were WAY too stiff for me and they were catching top dollar on ebay so I sold them. I couldn't beleive how long and straight I could hit the 2 iron.

SL irons like the EQL's are not for everyone that's for sure but what I can't seem to figure out is that if you present a golfer who is brand new to the game. Pretend like he has never seen a set of golf clubs before. Let him pick between two sets and describe the differences to him. I'll bet you that he'll take the single length irons before the "standard" irons. If loft is the primary determinant of distance then why not take the rest of the variables out of play?



Id have to agree with you. in fact Ive only been playing since last year and i think im going to get the 1 irons.   All those variables elliminated 1 basic swing plane.  I kinda think of taking all the practice of one year and dividing it by 14 different swings.  Its pretty inefficient practice.  Ive also stated looking into this and back at the trun of the century 1900s all your clubs were the same length.

 

post #40 of 64
Thread Starter 

Does anyone know if there is anything else out there besides 1iron, Pinhawks, Tommy Armour EQL, or iMatch SL's?

post #41 of 64
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Originally Posted by Red_on_the_head View Post

Does anyone know if there is anything else out there besides 1iron, Pinhawks, Tommy Armour EQL, or iMatch SL's?


http://www.simpletonsgolf.com/
 

 

post #42 of 64

Here is a link to an interesting article about single-length clubs by professional golfer Jaacob Bowden:  Swingman Golf

 

 

post #43 of 64

Another company that offers single-length irons is GRIA Golf:  www.griagolf.com

post #44 of 64
post #45 of 64

If I had the money I would buy a set of single length clubs instantly and at least give them an honest try.  It seems like it HAS to lead to much increased consistency to basically only have to practice swinging one club!

post #46 of 64
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Originally Posted by mdl View Post

If I had the money I would buy a set of single length clubs instantly and at least give them an honest try.  It seems like it HAS to lead to much increased consistency to basically only have to practice swinging one club!



Get a set of forged irons cut down then have the lofts and lies adjusted accordingly. I assume you'd need wider gaps.

post #47 of 64

 

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Get a set of forged irons cut down then have the lofts and lies adjusted accordingly. I assume you'd need wider gaps.



I've got forged irons but getting them all reshafted or cut down and bent would still be out of my price range.  Plus I wouldn't want to commit 100% to single length/lie irons by altering my current irons.  What if my intuition is wrong and I want to go back?  I could definitely not afford altering my current irons then purchasing another set, even used! 

post #48 of 64

Why would you cut down irons and have them bent for a trial, when you can buy a new set and try them for 30days. That seems to make more sense. Basically you get a month at your own pace or your cash back

post #49 of 64
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Originally Posted by Ron Davis View Post

Why would you cut down irons and have them bent for a trial, when you can buy a new set and try them for 30days. That seems to make more sense. Basically you get a month at your own pace or your cash back


Single length irons all have the weight head-approx 265 grams which is what a 6 iron weighs, A PW is usually about 291 grams..  The only way to do it with conventional  heads would be get all 6 irons and bend them to the loft needed.  I think if you took a 6 iron and bent it to 48* it would be FUBAR!!
 

 

post #50 of 64
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Originally Posted by sean_miller View Post



Get a set of forged irons cut down then have the lofts and lies adjusted accordingly. I assume you'd need wider gaps.



Unfortunately, it is impossible to either build or convert a set of golf clubs for single-length play using conventional club-heads.  Conventional iron club-heads are progressively weighted in 7 gram increments from the #3 iron through the wedges.  In addition to this, conventional club-head lie angles increase in approximately 0.5º increments from the #3 iron through the wedges.  In other words, a conventional #3 iron club-head typically weighs 240 grams and has a club-head lie angle of 60.0º while a conventional PW club-head typically weighs 289 grams and has a club-head lie angle of 65º.  Also, conventional club-heads have varying degrees of offset and bounce angles from club-head to club-head.  Since it is crucial for the specifications of each iron within a set of single-length irons to be identical, building a set with conventional club-heads is simply not possible.  Another thing to bear in mind is that whenever you bend the hosel of an iron (whether forged or cast) for loft or lie you create stress fractures in the steel.  This weakens the hosel area and reduces the ability to hit as solid of a shot.

post #51 of 64
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Originally Posted by Ron Davis View Post

Why would you cut down irons and have them bent for a trial, when you can buy a new set and try them for 30days. That seems to make more sense. Basically you get a month at your own pace or your cash back



I wouldn't do it, and even if it could be done (since proven to be not possible) and done for free, I still wouldn't do it. I like the way clubheads look in a bag when staggered long to short as the lofts increase. They fit together properly that way.

 

Carry on / go for it!!

 

post #52 of 64
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Originally Posted by mdl View Post

If I had the money I would buy a set of single length clubs instantly and at least give them an honest try.  It seems like it HAS to lead to much increased consistency to basically only have to practice swinging one club!


http://www.valuegolf.com/pinhawk-sl-single-length-irons/  $169.00 for set.
 

 

post #53 of 64

Hi. I've got a full iron set (2 through PW) of Tommy Armour EQLs. Are you interested in purchasing them? If so, please let me know and I can send close up pictures so you can see the condition (I would rate as "very good"). Thanks, tmeller1@aol.com

post #54 of 64
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Originally Posted by Red_on_the_head View Post

I have had some in the bag for the past year and they have certainly improved my game. Designs and clubs have been somewhat limited. I have bought and sold Tommy Armour EQL's because I didn't like them. I tried building my own out of standard components but had problems getting the weights right. 1iron golf is out of my price range.

I ended up with a set of Purefit iMatch SL's right now and love them so far. I have also found out that another company(valuegolf.com) is coming out with some new heads but his are a little different and I think are going to be quite a bit better.

They come in a set 5-PW. The lofts have 5* increments starting at 25* for the 5 iron. They all weigh in at 265 grams for a head weight so you can easily adjust them to play at 6 iron, 7 iron or even 8 iron length. All of the lie angles come in at 62.5*

Has anyone seen these yet? Reactions?

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