Re: My Swing (Zeph)
Some notes on backswing length I'm working on.
These are some thoughts I've gathered, please scream out if I'm wrong.
The hands move back, up and in because of three things.
- The upper body rotates to the right
- The left arm moves across the chest
- The right elbow flex
The upper body rotation is somewhere around 90º (probably more for me), depending on your flexibility, it turns the torso to the right. If we did nothing else, the hands would be low and in front of the chest.
The left arm and right elbow is pretty related, but can move independently, though it would be a bit awkward. When the upper body has rotated 90º, left arm crossed the chest and right elbow bent to 90º, the hands have moved as far as I want them to.
From there, I can do a couple of moves to get them farther, which is what I'm trying to eliminate.
- Overflexing the right elbow
- Lifting the arms
- Sliding the right elbow from the front side of the chest to the back side
Overflexing the right elbow is probably the most common overswing issue. Once the right elbow gets past 90º, the tendency is also that the left arm starts bending. The left arm don't have to be rigid and stiff, but I don't want it to bend a whole lot either. I overflex the right elbow to some degree, but the left arm stays pretty straight. It is almost impossible for me to flex the right elbow past 90º without bending the left arm too.
Lifting the arms is not something I've done to the extreme I feel. I've done it to some degree earlier, but I would say it's pretty OK for the moment.
Sliding the right elbow "behind" me is what I believe is the biggest problem. When my shoulders stop turning, the arms keep going, but the left arm stays relatively straight. This is where the right elbow slides behind me. I've swung with the Swing Extender
attached and still got the long backswing. The Swing Extender was attached properly and my right elbow did not flex past 90º. How I got the long backswing was the right elbow sliding behind me.
That training aid is really good by the way if you struggle with overflexing the right elbow, not too expensive either. I recommend it. I do overflex the right elbow too, but I would rate the sliding behind me over the overflex.
The result of my right elbow sliding behind me is the arms and hands being late. Like a relay race, the fourth runner starts running before the third runner has passed the stick. My hands are late and I'm forced to flip.
It would have been interesting to see a swing filmed from behind, something I've never done, and compared it to David Wedzik
or Mike Bennett
. It is a great view for watching the right elbow flex. I would guess that my right elbow got more behind me, than they do.
Looking at one of my videos, when the shoulders stop turning, the arms keep going for a few more inches, and from there, they never catch up agian.
There are two things I primarily try to do now:
- Not letting the right elbow flex past 90º
- Not letting the right elbow slide behind me
The first is where the Swing Extender comes in handy. The second is just practice to perfection. The feeling I'm looking for is the right upper arm staying more towards the front side of my chest. It does of course move to the side when the left arm cross the chest, but I don't want it to start moving even farther, to where it gets almost on my back.
If I do these three things: Don't lift the arms, don't overflex the right elbow and don't slide the right elbow behind me, it is virtually impossible to get the same backswing length I've had before. My shoulders does perhaps turn a bit too far, but as long as I keep those other three in place, I think the results will come.
Erik has given me some instruction on bending my right elbow sooner, which I've yet to work too much on. It feels super awkward and wrong, but that means I'm doing something different at least. The point is to get my backswing more synched. Today, the shoulders are done rotating before the right elbow is fully flexed (90º), so it is a part of the problems I'm having. If the shoulders reach the peak at the same time as the right elbow is flexed 90º, it will be a more connected and syncronized backswing.