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post #379 of 531
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Bill, I love you to death man, but for now you'll drop some strokes if you keep your short game, pitches and chips, as consistent and simple as possible.

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Agreed on this. In most cases a handful of shots, maybe less can be enough for majority of short game shots. I really never go high unless I need to carry something, if I am short sided, or if I need to drop the ball on a section of the green because pitching it would cause to much uncertainty with roll out. Besides that, I just try to hit the same pitch shot over and over, just vary the distance. 
Yea, I know you guys are right. I use a stock pitch, too. I just practice other shots because I enjoy it. When the odd occasion does come up where I have to hit a high flop or low spinner under a tree branch or something like that, I'm pretty confident simply because I've practiced it.

I didn't mean for it to sound like I was wishy-washy with my technique, I'm not one of THOSE guys a2_wink.gif

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The answer to this is yes, the conditions help.  
That's what I thought, thanks.
post #380 of 531
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Just wanted to put this up here again - a clear demonstration of pitching from hardpan. The rate at which the club is "thrown" (but with "gravity" or the "pivot" - however you feel it, it shouldn't be an "active" thing. This creates a relatively decent sized "flat spot" - the AoA is roughly -3 to +3 for quite a good stretch, and a ball hit anywhere in that spot will likely be very good.

 

post #381 of 531

Here's a dumb question...whats the most bounce you can use on a hardpan, say a cart path for instance..?

post #382 of 531
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Originally Posted by Hammer 4 View Post
 

Here's a dumb question...whats the most bounce you can use on a hardpan, say a cart path for instance..?

 

The club I used in the video above has 21° of bounce.

 

It's not WIDE, though. Even 10° of bounce can be too much if the sole is very wide.

 

I can't really answer specifically, because it depends on a lot of things: sole width, how hard "hardpan" truly is, your technique (degrees begin to matter), etc.

post #383 of 531

O.K...thanks Erik..

post #384 of 531
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Originally Posted by Hammer 4 View Post
 

O.K...thanks Erik..

 

Sorry that couldn't be a bit more detailed.

post #385 of 531
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

 

Sorry that couldn't be a bit more detailed.

 

 

No worries. I'll just have to try it and see how it works with my clubs. BTW, I've only landed on a cartpath once, but have been in a dirt hardpan plenty..lol Thanks again.

post #386 of 531
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No worries. I'll just have to try it and see how it works with my clubs. BTW, I've only landed on a cartpath once, but have been in a dirt hardpan plenty..lol Thanks again.

 

What wedges do you use and how much bounce do you have on them? I think you have Vokey's?

post #387 of 531
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What wedges do you use and how much bounce do you have on them? I think you have Vokey's?

 

 

54-12 and a 60-04 just like my sig says....;-)  Been thinking about maybe going to a 52-56 and keep my 60.

post #388 of 531
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54-12 and a 60-04 just like my sig says....;-)  Been thinking about maybe going to a 52-56 and keep my 60.

 

lol duh

 

You could also go 52, 58, which is what I do. For the 56*, should be fine "gliding" it through hardpan. Next time we meet up we'll hit some shots out of crappy lies.

post #389 of 531
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lol duh

 

You could also go 52, 58, which is what I do. For the 56*, should be fine "gliding" it through hardpan. Next time we meet up we'll hit some shots out of crappy lies.

 

 

58 is so close to my 60, other than getting a 58 with more bounce, what would I gain..?  

 

That would be super.

post #390 of 531
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Originally Posted by Hammer 4 View Post
 

 

 

58 is so close to my 60, other than getting a 58 with more bounce, what would I gain..?  

 

That would be super.

 

Sorry, meant go 52, 58 and take the 60 out of the bag. I'm not a fan of wedges with only 4* of bounce, especially with the lies we can get in SoCal.

post #391 of 531
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Originally Posted by mvmac View Post
 

 

Sorry, meant go 52, 58 and take the 60 out of the bag. I'm not a fan of wedges with only 4* of bounce, especially with the lies we can get in SoCal.

 

 

Gotcha...worth thinking about.

post #392 of 531
Travis knows

post #393 of 531

Hi all,

 

ive been trying this lately and have moderate succes. If i have a good lie i am always hitting it very well which is awesome. However, when i had a bad lie (less fluffy or in a divot) ive had multiple times where i would just skull it somehow. Part of this might be not enough weight forward, but ive also had it when i absolutely had my weight forward. Are there any other causes for this?

 

To clarify, i consiously let the club fall and find its way back to the ball. I guess somehow i let the club a little to free or something,, but as I understood it, the purpose was to not grip tight and try to let gravity(and bounce) do the work. 

 

I also seem to remember some explanation about how you could get different types of shot(high-low) but i cant seem to find it anymore.

post #394 of 531
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Originally Posted by slightlymad View Post
 

ive been trying this lately and have moderate succes. If i have a good lie i am always hitting it very well which is awesome. However, when i had a bad lie (less fluffy or in a divot) ive had multiple times where i would just skull it somehow. Part of this might be not enough weight forward, but ive also had it when i absolutely had my weight forward. Are there any other causes for this?

 

To clarify, i consiously let the club fall and find its way back to the ball. I guess somehow i let the club a little to free or something,, but as I understood it, the purpose was to not grip tight and try to let gravity(and bounce) do the work. 

 

Without seeing video (you should post it to your My Swing thread), the speed of your pivot is the leading suspect. It has to remain fast or the club can pass your hands prematurely. This method works really well from the rough, though, because even if you do line things up prematurely you have margin of error (the ball sitting up a little).

post #395 of 531
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

 

Without seeing video (you should post it to your My Swing thread), the speed of your pivot is the leading suspect. It has to remain fast or the club can pass your hands prematurely. This method works really well from the rough, though, because even if you do line things up prematurely you have margin of error (the ball sitting up a little).

 

Yes @slightlymad this motion works great out of rough and sand. Quick example to go along with what @iacas is talking about.

 

 

 

 

 

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I also seem to remember some explanation about how you could get different types of shot(high-low) but i cant seem to find it anymore.

 

This might be the thread you're referring to. 

 

 Short GameTrajectories 

post #396 of 531

Yes i will try to post that. This might indeed be what i am doing wrong. I will try this out. Thanks!

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