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ohiolefty Great Member

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To throw out a tried and true classic: This is just putting lipstick on a wh0re, isn't it?!?

Current Gear Setup: Driver: TM R9 460, 9.5, Stiff - 3W: TM R9, 15, stiff - Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Black, 18, stiff - Irons: Callaway X Forged 09, 3-PW, PX 5.5 - SW: Callaway X Series Jaws, 54.14 - LW: Callaway X Series Jaws, 60.12 - Putter: PING Redwood Anser, 33in.

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jamo Incredible Member

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Same thing as the Burner 1.0? Yup.

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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kilbyman Dedicated Member

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Is it just me or has TM become the gimmick king of the universe lately? Not that the actual clubs are gimmicks, but the marketing makes me scratch my head a little bit.

Their 4i is the same loft as my 3h...
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alomar123 Dedicated Member

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Is it just me or has TM become the gimmick king of the universe lately? Not that the actual clubs are gimmicks, but the marketing makes me scratch my head a little bit.

Yep, pretty dumb. They are gonna get terrible maltby ratings

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In my Revolver Bag
R9 460, RIP
R9 TP 3 Wood, Diamana 'ilima 70*Idea Pro Black 20*Titleist AP1 712 4-AW Spin Milled Black Nickel 56.08 & 60.10

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rego Member

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Argh! I wish I was there to heckle, not one part of that presentation is new.

Different kick points in each shaft for each club? Really?????? New technology???? Please, how stupid do you think people are?

Thin face? That's fine as long as you get it out of the middle, if you don't, you are worse off.

Technology has been maxed out in every part of the game, in most cases it will be wound back in the net few years, so his whole presentation about moving forward at a rapid rate is crap.

The one thing I wish the USPGA and R&A; could limit is BS marketing like this.
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CrazyXGolfer Dedicated Member

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same burner Iron stamped 2.0 with stonger lofts!!!

These clubs are LONG!

Driver: 909D3 8.5* Diamana White Board X
3 Wood: MP 630 15* GRAFALLOY PROLAUNCH RED X
Hybrid: 909H 19* "Real" VooDoo X
3 - P: MP-68 KBS Tour Black Nickel X
56* 10 Wedge Vr60* 06 Wedge: VrPutter: Custom Made.Golf Ball: TOUR B330SI am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was....

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kennay92 Great Member

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same burner Iron stamped 2.0 with stonger lofts!!!

oh but wait your forgot!!!! The old only appealed to 5-20 hc, nooooowwwww these are for EVERYONE!! haahah

:cobra: Speed ld-f 10.5 Stiff
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:bridgestone: J33 Forged Irons 4-pw
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andef Dedicated Member

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I like how their website used to compare the Burners to many competitors' clubs. If I remember correctly, the TMs were 10 yards longer than my AP2s.
The Titleist website says that a stock AP2 6 iron has a loft of 31* and a shaft length of 37.5 inches
According to TaylorMade, a Burner 6 iron has a loft of 27* and a shaft length of 37.625 inches.
That pretty much explains why the Burners are 10 yards longer. It's like hitting a 5 iron (burner) vs. a 6 iron (AP2) and saying the five iron goes further.
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Gordon McTavish Well Established Member

Gordon McTavish

I've gotten to the stage where I don't even understand the point behind their marketing anymore.

"Thin Face. The thinner the face, the more ball speed and distance the iron can produce. Incredibly important in long irons."
One, a thin face is nothing new. Two, why does this company, who claim to have pioneered long-iron replacements (hybrids) even bother with long irons in their set... especially when the target audience for GI equipment is supposed to be crap at hitting long irons?

"Head Shapes. Longer irons have larger heads while scoring iron heads are more compact."
Again, progressive head sizes are nothing new, so why do it now and make a big deal over it?

I can't find the specs on these irons, but I presume the 3-iron is 39.5" and 19* loft, so basically we'll start hearing the tired argument about long-irons being harder to hit (hmm, I wonder why) and that the high-handicapper should dump the 3, 4, 5 and possibly even 6 iron in favour of more expensive hybrids.

I wonder if the quarterly marketing drivel is the reason why mid-to-high handicappers take an interest in blade / muscle-back clubs. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sick of the same crap that promises to produce miracle results from a crap swing.
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andef Dedicated Member

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Gordon McTavish, according to the TaylorMade website both shaft length and loft are as you mentioned.
http://www.taylormadegolf.com/mainle...html?IsPopUp=0
I'm just as surprised as you that so many people believe in the marketing crap they come up with when it's just a bunch of BS.
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ohiolefty Great Member

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I think in the new commercials, you should be able to beat Rory Sabbatini's face in with these rather than listen to whatever banal filth he decides to spew out his wordhole.

Current Gear Setup: Driver: TM R9 460, 9.5, Stiff - 3W: TM R9, 15, stiff - Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Black, 18, stiff - Irons: Callaway X Forged 09, 3-PW, PX 5.5 - SW: Callaway X Series Jaws, 54.14 - LW: Callaway X Series Jaws, 60.12 - Putter: PING Redwood Anser, 33in.

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jamo Incredible Member

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I like Taylor Made clubs (especially their woods) and I love the fact that they release clubs every 5 minutes, but I hate the stupid things they do to say their clubs good really long. Adding shaft length, lower lofts. It's just dumb.

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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Shanks A Million Great Member

Shanks A Million

You know, if Taylormade would just ditch this BS and release their tour clubs to the public, they'd be so much better. Their tour issued clubs are great, the consumer R9 and R9TP are cast junk that's delofted to the 9s. The R9TB-B is a carbon steel cavity back, a good club. Their tour issue drivers are low spin, their consumer models are very high spin. They pretty much sell super long, whippy shafted, delofted, cheaply cast junk with fancy badges and a bunch of marketing gimmicks. The old TM Rac MB forged clubs were wonderful, as were the matching wedges. Now they have this "xFT" crap that looks like something from a bad sci-fi golf movie.
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will54 Established Member

will54

If you like long and flashy GI clubs with strong lofts than you should like these clubs ,but for people with taste and a decent swing who could care less about distance and more about feel and workability than you will not like them. If your gonna buy a Tayormade GI CB why not just go for the R9 they have good distance and they are not near as busy in the back.

It looks like they may be coming out with new blades as well. http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/...lade-spy-pics/

In my Nexos

Driver R9 10.5*matrix ozik xcon 6
3wood dunlop Reaction 15*
hybrid Rescue 09 19* Aldila Re*ax 65 S Irons 755 3-PW project X flighted 5.5 Wedges MP T-10 52* 07 DG S300 WG 706 56* 12* bounce DG Wedge flex1018...

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toddmlazarchick Dedicated Member

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You know, if Taylormade would just ditch this BS and release their tour clubs to the public, they'd be so much better. Their tour issued clubs are great, the consumer R9 and R9TP are cast junk that's delofted to the 9s. The R9TB-B is a carbon steel cavity back, a good club. Their tour issue drivers are low spin, their consumer models are very high spin. They pretty much sell super long, whippy shafted, delofted, cheaply cast junk with fancy badges and a bunch of marketing gimmicks. The old TM Rac MB forged clubs were wonderful, as were the matching wedges. Now they have this "xFT" crap that looks like something from a bad sci-fi golf movie.

Whats with the hate on TM? The XFT wedge design is a different way to go about wedge groove maintenance. No other company had that idea out there before them and yet its "crap"? If any other brand made them first I highly doubt you would be ragging on them for it.

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taylormade.gif'11 Rescue Hybrids 3 (18*), 4 (21*) Aldila RIP 65 HB R Flex
taylormade.gifR11 5-PW KBS Steel R Flex | taylormade.gifTP XFT 52* 56* 60* KBS Steel

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