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chrisronline Established Member

chrisronline

I never really thought about it before, but this is crazy to actually read:

http://www.pga.com/grandslam/2010/ne...ns_players.cfm

Check out the notes about when they first broke par...

Sticks: Burner SF 9.5, 15, 19 | MX-300 4-GW | CG15 56.14, 60.12 | BS Tour #9
Accessories: Tour 360 4.0 | Revolution Stand Bag | GolfShot iPhone App
Last Round: 82 (70)

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James_Black Great Member

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Don't know when you hit puberty but mine was well before 15 :P

I was thinking the same thing lol

A few friends of mine are 15/16 and they've broken par a load of times

My Clubs
Driver - LV4 10* R flex
Wood - sam snead persimmon 2 wood (for windy days)
Hybrid burner tour launch 20* stiff flex.
Irons - Tour Mode 3i,4i stiffIrons - FP's 5-PW R-flexWedge - spin milled 54.14Wedge - spin milled 60.07Putter - Victoria Lowest round 2010: 79 (par 70)Latest rounds at...

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right handed phil mickelson Great Member

right handed phil mickelson

I broke par about 2 months ago. I was still 16.

Driver: Callaway Big Bertha Diablo 9º
2 Hybrid: Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood
Irons: Nike Slingshot OSS 6-3 iron
          Taylormade Tour Preferred PW-7 iron
Wedges: Cleveland CG14 50º, 54º
              Taylormade RAC 58º
Putter: Ping Darby 32" shaft


 

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jamo Incredible Member

jamo

I was 17 the first time. Where does that put me, mini-tours?

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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Sing Golfer Established Member

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There are gun junior golfers all over the world shooting low scores. A 14 year old kid in Singapore just won the National Open Amateur and will get a start in the $5m+ Singapore Open next month.

If you look at the David Leadbetter Academy there are plenty of kids who can shoot low. Very few actually make it though.

At the other end of the scale, Greg Norman didn't pick up a club until he was 16 and he had a pretty handy career.

Driver: Nakashima 10.5 degree
3 Wood: 15 degree F2
Hybrids: 19 and 21 degree
Irons: MP-58, 4-9 iron
Wedges: Vokey sm 47.06, 53.08, 58.08Putter: studio select 2.5Ball: Pro Vx : Warren Golf Club 73.6 : 146

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MJP Well Established Member

MJP

I have a buddy who started when he was 15 and now plays at UNLV to a +4.

I sure hope he makes it. He's an awesome guy and a fantastic player. Has the long game for the PGA tour too. 290 carry distance. Has all of sohpomore, junior and senior year to get up to a ~+6 where he can contend in Q School.

I'd imagine about +6-8 are most of the guys going deep into Q school.
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James_Black Great Member

James_Black

rory mcllroy turned pro off +6.
Most of the top pro's turned pro off +4 (Ian poulter turned pro off of a 4 handicap).

A low handicap isn't everything, it's being able to play off of it under the kind of pressure the pro's are under, one put can be worth 300k

My Clubs
Driver - LV4 10* R flex
Wood - sam snead persimmon 2 wood (for windy days)
Hybrid burner tour launch 20* stiff flex.
Irons - Tour Mode 3i,4i stiffIrons - FP's 5-PW R-flexWedge - spin milled 54.14Wedge - spin milled 60.07Putter - Victoria Lowest round 2010: 79 (par 70)Latest rounds at...

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LongballGer Well Established Member

LongballGer

Handicap or breaking par doesn´t mean much.

You can have a +4 handicap only playing a 6200yard muni course with your buddies everyday. Play a different, harder course and you won´t be able to break 80.

Golf is a game in which the ball always lies poorly and the player always lies well.

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MJP Well Established Member

MJP

Handicap or breaking par doesn´t mean much.

What you don't seem to understand about the handicap system (I'm sure you do but it's evading you?) is that courses are rated to make the system fair.

When I played with my +4 buddy at a 70.0/131 course 6600 yards, he shot a -4 66. Which plays him to about a +3.2 that day. He missed a 4 foot birdie putt that would've put him exactly at +4 differential. Then, in a tournament round where the course rating is 74.0/135+ or something 7200yards, he shoots 69 or 70 and plays to that +4 there as well. By no means does he go out and shoot 80 on a "hard course". Hell, his highest tournament round was a 79 at the 77.0 (or mayeb even slightly higher, it's insane) rated Chambers Bay at the U.S. Amateur, probably the most pressure tournament he's played in. I honestly prefer to play very high course ratings because even if I miss the green with my long irons I know my short game is pretty good. Off the green from 180y or from 120y is the exact same thing...
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MJP Well Established Member

MJP

rory mcllroy turned pro off +6.

Very true. But a low handicap playing all touranment rounds (collegiate at that) is very impressive.

Playing to a +4 at the exact same course over and over as casual rounds is a lot different than moving around and playing many different courses in tournaments.
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