"The Comics" Thread - Page 3

I'd be very cautious about making blanket statements about an instructor by using 1:00 of video.  Better to check out his body of work, and in Ritter's case, he has a lot of stuff online.  I'm fine with having fun if warranted, but Ritter knows what he's doing.

Its not just 1:00 of video sadly. He has implied that to draw the ball you need to close the clubface through impact many times. Its kind of basic knowledge that this is incorrect. 

And I was talking about this:

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But yea, I saw that one as well.

So you say.  But, that's OK.  Have your fun.

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Originally Posted by Harmonious 

So you say.  But, that's OK.  Have your fun.

I'm curious why you're so defensive about this guy. Did you pay him money for a lesson, or is he a friend of yours?

You say he knows what he's talking about, but in the article above he's telling people to shut the clubface at impact to hit a draw. Something's gotta give.

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Originally Posted by walk18 

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Originally Posted by Harmonious 

So you say.  But, that's OK.  Have your fun.

I'm curious why you're so defensive about this guy. Did you pay him money for a lesson, or is he a friend of yours?

 

You say he knows what he's talking about, but in the article above he's telling people to shut the clubface at impact to hit a draw. Something's gotta give.

All I know of Jeff Ritter is his videos online, but I would love to have a lesson from him.

I'd say this is a decent endorsement from a reputable source:

"I have known and worked with Jeff for a number of years. He is both a wonderful teacher and player. Jeff has correct information and knows how to communicate it. Anyone fortunate enough to have a lesson from Jeff will certainly benefit from it.”

Off topic: As far a hitting a draw, wouldn't a shut clubface (relative to the swing path) be required, or has physics changed?

While I agree with you that no one can physically close a clubface at impact, my take on Ritter's instruction was that he wanted you to make sure that you hit the ball with a closed face.  Since good swings go from 90* open at the top to square at impact, more or less, I think he was just emphasizing the point of making sure the club wasn't open at impact. It's the old "feel isn't real" thing.  And it was used in the context of a Hail, Mary scenario where you had to make sure the face was closed, no double-crosses.

My only reason for including Hardy's endorsement was that I was questioned why I thought Ritter knows what he's talking about. Since my opinion isn't worth much, I added the quote from a much more credible source.  

But anyway, it's a comics thread. 

Ritter for the most part has good information, he's basically a Hardy guy.  Hands in, shoulder's 90* to the spine, head centered.  But in this case, not so good.  If your hitting a draw that face better be aimed right of the target. 

Piss poor. 

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Originally Posted by iacas 

Here's a good one from the USGTF, right out of their book:

 

Pay special attention to two things:

1. "The initial direction of the ball will be a result of the direction of the clubhead path at impact."
2. "It is important to note that ball flight laws only apply when proper alignment is observed."

 

 

One of our students went there to get Level II certified and was annoyed that he had to "lie" in order to get the "correct" answers on the tests they gave him.

I am Level I certified by the European Golf Teachers Federation and they also have it wrong. At the time I didn't know the correct ball flight laws so it went over my head, however I sent them an e-mail afterwards. I still haven't received a reply. Why is it so hard for people to accept they are wrong??

Btw, I noticed a couple of mistakes in the point below! ;-)

2. "It is important to note that ball flight laws only apply when proper alignment contact is observed made." 

WTF!;

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Originally Posted by Flounder 

WTF!;

 

Great video!  I knew that the downswing was easy!
 

I liked the "Stepping On Spongebob".

I wish I could find the clip on the net. Just watched one of Spain's up and coming players on the European Tour, Rafael Cabrera-Bello, explaining how to hit a draw on Spain's golf channel:

"Aim your body right of target because that's where you want the ball to start and point the clubface at the target as that is where you want the ball to go".

So he hits the shot and the ball ends up 20 yards LEFT of the target. He turns to the camera and says, "now you know how to hit a draw!"

It never ceases to amaze me how little top players know about the mechanics of the swing.

Cabrera-Bello was recently DQed at the South African open when he ran out of balls halfway through the second round. He managed to burn through an even dozen by the tenth hole. Maybe he should work on his straight shots!