Originally Posted by pwgolfpro
I see the golf swing differently that others. My technique was not always based on the machine. For the first 8 years, I taught people to look like pros when they swung.
I knew what Iron Byron was back then but never gave it a second thought. In 1999, the internet was gaining popularity so I went online and found True Temper's website. On it I saw a looping video of the Iron Byron. To me, it looked like a golfer as it kept swinging the club. After making this realization, I grabbed my golf digest magazines and opened up the swing sequences of various pros. I freeze framed the Iron Byron and compared them side by side. Every pro I put beside the machine matched up with the machine frame by frame. Here are a couple of examples:Tiger Woods Swing Sequence vs. Iron ByronErnie Els Swing Sequence vs. Iron Byron
After seeing this, I decided to analyze the machine. The machine hit the ball 100% consistently whereas pros were only about 70%. To me the machine looked simple yet it got perfect results. So why not at least look at it? In looking at it I realized it only had 3 elements that allowed it to hit perfect shots:
1. Circular Rotation
2. An Unrestricted Hinge
3. A Constant Forward Tilt
These are the elements I teach in Swing Machine Golf. I want to make it simple for people to understand and to get great results. From the thousands of testimonials I have received I think what I am teaching is working.
Whoever wants to come out and watch me teach is more than welcome to do so. Just let me know.
Here is what the inventor of Iron Byron, George Manning has to say about how he invented the machine:
I answered most of these questions in my very first post. Here are the answers to your questions again:
It doesn't have legs: ANSWER: The motor represents the golfers legs
It doesn't have a weight shift: ANSWER: it is a machine designed to test golf clubs. It doesn't need to have a weight shift. The golfer shifts their weight to power their swing.
so how much weight is on the left foot at impact
? ANSWER: 70-90%
It swings on plane: ANSWER: yes, it swings on plane. It replicates Bryon Nelson's downswing.
it doesn't have wrists: ANSWER: yes it has a hinge at the end of the arm which represents the golfer's wrists.
a poor grip: ANSWER: the club is held in a sleeve representing the golfer grip.
bad alignment: it aligns wherever they align the machine for what shot they want it to hit. I don't see how this is bad alignment.
I have a TON of respect for you in coming into this website and engaging in conversation. Not many professionals would do that. I also think you've made some awesome YouTube videos. I bought your book a few years ago and think it was very informative.
As a 7 handicap that is always trying to get better (I hope to get down to a 5 next year - you know how that goes...), I've done a bunch of research on golf swings. I'm wondering if you can give me your thoughts on two things regarding your book.
1. You preach rotational movement in the golf swing and specifically say that a hip slide is a fault (see pages 47 and 53 of your book). At the same time, you want 70 - 90 percent of the golfer's weight to be on the left foot at impact. I struggle with this... If I want to get that much weight on my left side at impact without any sort of hip slide, I'll have to do one of two things - either preset my hips way forward (which goes against your recommended set up), or sway my upper body to the left during the downswing.
Can you clarify how I eliminate hip slide and get my weight properly shifted to the left side at impact?
2. As I've gotten better as a golfer, I've notice that I've had to actually correct arm and hand positions. I really like your idea of keeping the wrists loose to produce the highest swing speeds. But what if that means I banana slice every shot, no matter what grip I take? Is there some point where I'll need to think about changing my arm/wrist/hand positions for the swing?
Again, from what I've learned about you, you seem to be a great instructor. I hope this doesn't come across as me knocking you (heck, I wish I had half the game you did...).
Any insights would be appreciated.