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So here's the deal. I really suck at golf but really want to get better. I have tried Paul's method without much success. I recently picked up Ben Hogan's Five Lessons book, and it seems that this information completely contradicts what Paul is saying, especially when it comes to the stance. My take on Ben Hogan's stance lesson is that you should have tight arms close to your body with elbows as close together as possible, as evidenced by the image with the web around his arms. I have been hitting some practice shots with this tighter setup and it appears to have improved things, at least over the couple days I have tried it.

My question is this: how do you reconcile the "powerless arms" approach with the tight to the body and elbows close together approach that Ben recommends? I find it much harder to repeat my swing with the powerless arms approach, because my arms are loose and flying all over the place.

How should I proceed? Would most people here say they use powerless arms or tighten them so they are close together? Is Hogan's method antiquated, or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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post #146 of 149
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Originally Posted by csciguy77 View Post

How should I proceed? Would most people here say they use powerless arms or tighten them so they are close together? Is Hogan's method antiquated, or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

 

Just to add to @Hammer 4's post above. I would stop searching for "the answer" in different swing methods and figure out what your priority piece is and improve that. Good chance it's going to be Key 1 or 2.

post #147 of 149
I guess I'm not really looking for the one and only answer. It seems that both Paul Wilson and Ben Hogan have very complete swing systems, from the grip all the way to the follow through, and I definitely want to work on all aspects of the golf swing, not just one. My question was more specific, and I think @Holein1 gave his perspective. I'd be interested to hear what you think about this particular part of the swing. Would you say you use "powerless arms?" I find it hard to believe someone can have their elbows as close together as Hogan recommends and still have them powerless. I know when I move them as close together as possible as he recommends, I definitely feel a tightness there. So there is the contradiction between the two methods, and I was wondering what your opinion is. Unless there is no contradiction, and I am misreading either Paul or Hogan's method.
post #148 of 149

csciguy-

 

You can indeed have your arms close together (ie aprox 2 inches or so at forearms) and still have them relaxed.   You can also swing with that position in a powerless arms mode like Paul recommends.   These methods  are not contradictory.  Try it. Just, don't try to touch your arms together which would be crazy.  Another tip on this would be to make sure your right elbow is relaxed and not stiff as a board.  Of course your hands and shoulders need to be relaxed as well.  This is of course just my 2 cents;  I'm sure others here could give much better advice.

post #149 of 149
Thanks @Holein1. That really makes sense. I think I was holding my arms way too far apart; when I move them closer together it feels much more stable. I think this was especially a problem with my woods as I am farther away from the ball. I guess we'll see if this adjustment makes a difference. The Hogan book also made me realize I was too loose in the armpit area, although Paul does talk about this. I really feel like the Hogan book gave me a nice, succinct way to set up before a shot. Hopefully this will transfer to the course.
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