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post #19 of 28

I have always gripped the club in my fingers. Actually, I used to grip it too much in my fingers, and had to get the club more in my palm when I adjusted my grip. My left thumb rests just to the right of the top of the grip, say at the 1 o'clock position when viewed from overhead.

 

@Tee2Trees, I think you're asking about long vs. short thumb, in which case I can tell you that you can have a long left thumb AND have the club in the fingers, they're not mutually exclusive. Please see this thread: http://thesandtrap.com/t/43269/short-thumb-vs-long-thumb/0_30

post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by Tee2Trees View Post
 

The conventionally known "proper" way to hold the club is with the left thumb high and gripping just in the fingers.  

 

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However, beginners will often hold the club deeper in the palm area of the hand and as a result have the thumb slightly extended down the shaft. 

 

Well, I've always golfed the latter way.  Anyone else?  

 

There really is no "Proper" way to hold a club. 

 

Yes more in the fingers of the left hand is usually custom. Though Hank Haney advocates a grip were it is in the palm more. 

 

Find what works, and if it doesn't hurt the swing, then go with it. 

post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by Tee2Trees View Post
 

The conventionally known "proper" way to hold the club is with the left thumb high and gripping just in the fingers.  

 

However, beginners will often hold the club deeper in the palm area of the hand and as a result have the thumb slightly extended down the shaft. 

 

Well, I've always golfed the latter way.  Anyone else?  

 

Most functional golf grips have the heel pad on top of the grip and in the fingers. If the grip gets into the palm, it can lessen the amount you can hinge/cock your left wrist. Going to make it hard to "load" the shaft on the back swing and sustain the leverage on the downswing.

post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by billchao View Post
 

I have always gripped the club in my fingers. Actually, I used to grip it too much in my fingers, and had to get the club more in my palm when I adjusted my grip. My left thumb rests just to the right of the top of the grip, say at the 1 o'clock position when viewed from overhead.

 

@Tee2Trees, I think you're asking about long vs. short thumb, in which case I can tell you that you can have a long left thumb AND have the club in the fingers, they're not mutually exclusive. Please see this thread: http://thesandtrap.com/t/43269/short-thumb-vs-long-thumb/0_30

LOL @ Bill

 

Do you realize that you reference to the same thread you posted at?

post #23 of 28
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LOL @ Bill

Do you realize that you reference to the same thread you posted at?
It was merged from another thread a1_smile.gif
post #24 of 28

Back to topic, I dont think about it, sometimes a tucked top thumb works well, sometimes long thumb works well,.

I dont like the term "short thumb" , I rather say "medium" thumb.

 

When someone says "short thumb" it makes me think of putting, when i tap the putter on the ground to shorten my thumb.

For me the 'short thumb" is good for putting stroke.

post #25 of 28

For me, holding it that much in the fingers with the left hand makes the grip too strong---V pointing at the right shoulder. I draw the ball and I'm always guarding against a hook so a strong left hand grip is a no go unless I want to hit duck hooks.  I tend to hold it a little more palmy but I still understand that only the 3rd, 4th and 5th finger (of the left hand) are responsible for holding the grip against the lower palm. The index finger and thumb don't do anything, just rest there.   I suppose I could use a strong or neutral grip but I would have to address the ball with a slightly opened clubface or make some other compensation (massive lower body rotation, which I'm not flexible enough for or perhaps a big lateral Tom Lehman type leg drive?) I understand that Jack Nicklaus once said "I've never seen a really good player set it square or closed at address."   I have always had the clubface square or even a little closed---maybe that's just  one of the reasons I never made it onto a college golf team or never broke 70. That might certainly help explain my tendency to hook a lot. Just one of many possible fundamental variables---stance, grip, alignment, shoulder alignment, attack angle, spine angle, foot flare, takeaway, wrist set, backswing, downswing, impact, release type, etc.  But back to the grip, I think players who slice the ball too much (or hit weak fades) and don't have the hand strength to support a weak grip would benefit from the type of grip you have pictured there. I just have the opposite problem it seems, unless I make some other tweaks---ie. clubface at address.  

post #26 of 28

Not sure it has anything to do with hand strength. Though I do think most amateurs underestimate how firm the grip has to be to maintain a good constant pressure through out the swing. Also, I don't think a weak grip is necessarily better for those who have strong hands. I think its just personal preference. I prefer a stronger grip because it helps me with my swing path through the ball, and helps keep the clubface a bit more open at impact for me.

post #27 of 28

Hand strength and its relation to grip preference:

 

I believe Gary Woodland (one of the strongest, most athletic golfers on the PGA Tour) uses a weak grip (left hand turned more to the left, V pointing at his chin, one knuckle visible, thumb directly on top of the grip). But then again Dustin Johnson (another tremendous athlete) uses a very strong grip.   

 

Maybe it has more to do with how the player releases the club?  Or whether the club at the top is laid off, perfectly parallel, or across the line?  Clubface closed (like DJ), square or open at the top?  And not so much how strong his hands are?

 

 When I turn my left hand clockwise to even a neutral position, my grip feels very stiff and I feel like I'm holding the club uncomfortably tight. My shots tend to go low and left. Weakening my left hand---moving it counter clockwise with the thumb straight down the shaft, short thumb position, makes it all better. Comfort and a nice high, slightly pushed draw.   

 

I guess grip (weak, neutral or strong) is a preference, like you said.  

post #28 of 28
Do any of you guys think the fact that I'm ambidextrous could be screwing up my grip? I mean I don't have the usual "dominant hand" situation that most people do. I'm like this:

Right Handed
Frisbee
Tennis
Writing

Left handed
Golf
Throw
Bat
Bowl
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