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Aldila RIP vs. Matrix HD6

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I'm in the market for some low launch/spin shafts and am torn between the Aldila RIP and the Matrix HD6. I've heard that the HD6 will launch lower and spin less, but I've also heard the other way around. Has anybody had experince with either of these shafts (or both) and what do you think of them. What kind of launch conditions do they produce? Do they play softer/stiffer to flex? How do they feel?

 

Thanks for any input

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Originally Posted by TaylorMadeTaylor View Post

I'm in the market for some low launch/spin shafts and am torn between the Aldila RIP and the Matrix HD6. I've heard that the HD6 will launch lower and spin less, but I've also heard the other way around. Has anybody had experince with either of these shafts (or both) and what do you think of them. What kind of launch conditions do they produce? Do they play softer/stiffer to flex? How do they feel?

 

Thanks for any input

First off, I love your avatar, and I laughed, that video is unreal.

 

I have only hit the Aldila RIP. I hit it during a Taylormade demo at my work last summer with a Superdeep. I loved it. When I decided to purchase my Titleist 910 D2, that was a shaft that I had already scoped out along with the Project X. I launch the ball low, even with a hefty swing speed of 115+. The RIP did not come close to my desired launch angle, which for all is usually 13. My launch angles with the RIP even in a 10.5 head were under 10. I tried both stiff and extra stiff. The RIP is a smooth shaft, and the spin and launch is low. I wish I could help on the Matrix, the only Matrix Shaft I've swung is in a buddies Titleist DComp with an Ozik X-Con 6, and I LOVED IT! But that was a mid/high launch.
 

post #3 of 14

The RIP shaft is pretty darn hard to beat in terms on feel and the low spin rates I am getting out of it and my 910D3 combo. I've only hit the RIP shaft in some drivers and every time it was a winner. Look for the red eyes, its the real version of the shaft and not a manufacturer offering. Out of the shafts offered for the 910's, the RIP gave me the best numbers but I would try and hit a driver with those shafts just to get a feel first and then look at numbers and compare your averages. IMO, the RIP shaft is probably one of the best shafts I have ever hit...

 

The shaft feels stiff, not boardy and not too whippy, just right and the control is great too, I don't even have to jump on it to get a good feel from the shaft and my SS is at 110 max and 103 normal.. Smooth swings with this combo come very easy for me.

post #4 of 14

Check out the Accra DyMatch S3. I've just started playing an S2 and it's a great feeling shaft.

 

http://www.accragolf.com/shafts/view/series/s3

post #5 of 14
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Thanks guys, went and hit the RIP yesterday and really liked it. Hit it on the sim and not a launch monitor but the ballflight looked to be good, penetrating flight and lots of roll. But, this shaft is stiff! Tried the 70S and it feels and plays like an X. 

 

Anyway, can't get a hold of an hd6 to demo anywhere! Asked GG and all sorts of pro shops and stores but nothing.

post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by TaylorMadeTaylor View Post

Thanks guys, went and hit the RIP yesterday and really liked it. Hit it on the sim and not a launch monitor but the ballflight looked to be good, penetrating flight and lots of roll. But, this shaft is stiff! Tried the 70S and it feels and plays like an X. 

 

Anyway, can't get a hold of an hd6 to demo anywhere! Asked GG and all sorts of pro shops and stores but nothing.



Really, you found it to be stiff as an X? Just out of curiosity, what's your swing speed. When I demo'd it I felt that it was a whippy stiff. I do have some good clubhead speed though, I didn't try it in an X, I only tried the Diamana Ahina and Project X in x-stiff, ended up with the Ahina X, which I never wanted to get an X, but for some reason it got my launch angles up and still kept consistent spin.

 

On that note, does anyone know why an X would produce a higher ball flight? I swing consistently from 110+, and I always thought that an X stiff would be more difficult to get up. I asked the guy there and he said "it just does sometimes", this partly being the reason I have a hard time trusting any fitter who is not PGA certified. It baffled me, I really did not want to get an X, but it worked, and now I hit the son of a gun a mile!

post #7 of 14

I have been looking into a RIP but and Im going for a fitting on Friday when the R11 comes out.  Ive heard that you cant get an R11 or and R9 for that matter reshafted because of the FCT adjustability.  Is that true?  

post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by TaylorMadeTaylor View Post

Thanks guys, went and hit the RIP yesterday and really liked it. Hit it on the sim and not a launch monitor but the ballflight looked to be good, penetrating flight and lots of roll. But, this shaft is stiff! Tried the 70S and it feels and plays like an X. 

 

Anyway, can't get a hold of an hd6 to demo anywhere! Asked GG and all sorts of pro shops and stores but nothing.


The HD6 is more of a mid launching shaft.  It's still pretty low spin but will launch much higher than the RIP.  I love the RIP, I think it feels great.  It's tight but not too boardy and produces low spin with a nice trajectory. 

 



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Originally Posted by toddmlazarchick View Post

I have been looking into a RIP but and Im going for a fitting on Friday when the R11 comes out.  Ive heard that you cant get an R11 or and R9 for that matter reshafted because of the FCT adjustability.  Is that true?  


It's not true, you can buy the sleeves online and just about any club fitter can install them on any shaft you want.  I've done it  few times already, works great.

post #9 of 14
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It's not true, you can buy the sleeves online and just about any club fitter can install them on any shaft you want.  I've done it  few times already, works great.



Sorry if this is a pretty basic question but since this is my first time being fitted, I assume they will be able to tell you whether I need a low, mid or high launch shaft and either a 70 or 80g shaft?

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Originally Posted by TaylorMadeTaylor View Post

Thanks guys, went and hit the RIP yesterday and really liked it. Hit it on the sim and not a launch monitor but the ballflight looked to be good, penetrating flight and lots of roll. But, this shaft is stiff! Tried the 70S and it feels and plays like an X. 

 

Anyway, can't get a hold of an hd6 to demo anywhere! Asked GG and all sorts of pro shops and stores but nothing.



Really, you found it to be stiff as an X? Just out of curiosity, what's your swing speed. When I demo'd it I felt that it was a whippy stiff. I do have some good clubhead speed though, I didn't try it in an X, I only tried the Diamana Ahina and Project X in x-stiff, ended up with the Ahina X, which I never wanted to get an X, but for some reason it got my launch angles up and still kept consistent spin.

 

On that note, does anyone know why an X would produce a higher ball flight? I swing consistently from 110+, and I always thought that an X stiff would be more difficult to get up. I asked the guy there and he said "it just does sometimes", this partly being the reason I have a hard time trusting any fitter who is not PGA certified. It baffled me, I really did not want to get an X, but it worked, and now I hit the son of a gun a mile!

 

On an average day I swing around 110mph. It was the alpha version of the RIP which is the firmest and lowest launching RIP shaft. You may have tried the beta or gamma version, which I also tried. Like overcooked spaghetti compared to the alpha. Also, I hit the 'real' RIP versus a RIP that came stock in an adams driver, big difference between the two.

 

Anyway I'm thinking about an ahina as well, how does it compare to the RIP in your opinion?

 

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Originally Posted by TaylorMadeTaylor View Post

Thanks guys, went and hit the RIP yesterday and really liked it. Hit it on the sim and not a launch monitor but the ballflight looked to be good, penetrating flight and lots of roll. But, this shaft is stiff! Tried the 70S and it feels and plays like an X. 

 

Anyway, can't get a hold of an hd6 to demo anywhere! Asked GG and all sorts of pro shops and stores but nothing.



Really, you found it to be stiff as an X? Just out of curiosity, what's your swing speed. When I demo'd it I felt that it was a whippy stiff. I do have some good clubhead speed though, I didn't try it in an X, I only tried the Diamana Ahina and Project X in x-stiff, ended up with the Ahina X, which I never wanted to get an X, but for some reason it got my launch angles up and still kept consistent spin.

 

On that note, does anyone know why an X would produce a higher ball flight? I swing consistently from 110+, and I always thought that an X stiff would be more difficult to get up. I asked the guy there and he said "it just does sometimes", this partly being the reason I have a hard time trusting any fitter who is not PGA certified. It baffled me, I really did not want to get an X, but it worked, and now I hit the son of a gun a mile!

 

On an average day I swing around 110mph. It was the alpha version of the RIP which is the firmest and lowest launching RIP shaft. You may have tried the beta or gamma version, which I also tried. Like overcooked spaghetti compared to the alpha. Also, I hit the 'real' RIP versus a RIP that came stock in an adams driver, big difference between the two.

 

Anyway I'm thinking about an ahina as well, how does it compare to the RIP in your opinion?

 



The Ahina in my opinion put the RIP to shame. However, I am unsure what version it was. Both the Ahina and RIP models I'm familiar with are for the Titleist 910's, I have hit the RIP with a TM Superdeep, again unsure what exact version. The RIP to me seemed whippy, even in an X. The ball flight was low, and did not get my launch angles near the desired 13. When I hit the Ahina the first swing I fell in love with it. It was stiff, but it was smooth and just felt right. The Ahina got my launch angles up, even though it's a lower flight. It must be the M.D.I. technology in it that makes the tip and mid stiffer, just felt right to me. Don't get me wrong, the RIP felt great, but just didn't get me my launch angles, my spin was fine in both the RIP and Ahina.

post #12 of 14

Edit: sorry I misread your OP.

post #13 of 14

I play a Tayolormade R11 TP 9 degree with a Matrix HD 6 stiff shaft.  I love the shaft because its not whippy.  I had to adjust my 9 degree club to a 10 degree to get desired 12 degree launch angle and once i did that I increased distance by 22 yards.  My swing speed is 104.9 and spin rate was 1999.  Hope this helps.  I also have a Calloway Razr-Fit driver with a stocked Aldila RIP Stiff shaft and there is no comparison.  The Aldila is too whippy

post #14 of 14

I get higher ball flight with x shafts as well...I think if you swing solid or hit into the ball hard, rather than swing, the x flex has less shaft lag, so the effective loft s higher. Prob a late release...

 Softer shafts just de-loft the club face under load through the ball...to stop this pause or wait a fraction more time at the top of the back swing and the shaft will catch up

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