Originally Posted by jwrussell
What I don't get is the guy's edit and clarification at the end:
None of this makes any sense to me. You can use the phone for non-golfing purposes even though all of the features that supposedly make it illegal to use as a GPS are just as accessible, if not MORESO than if you are using a GPS APP? That makes absolutely no sense. And if you are allowed to take the phone on to the course "providing [you] do not access any freature that might assist...in [your] play", why on EARTH woudln't you be able to use the GPS APP under the same restrictions???
If the rule says the device is illegal to use as a distance measuring device because it can do other things, then it's illegal, period. The above rationalizations do nothing but muddy the water even further.
The rule (14-3) says, "Except as provided in the Rules, during a stipulated round the player must not use any artificial device or unusual equipment, or use any equipment in an unusual manner: [...] b. For the purpose of gauging or measuring distance or conditions that might affect his play" (omitted unrelated things you also cannot use unusual equipment to do). The rules, therefore, only make it illegal to use unusual equipment to gauge or measure distance or conditions that affect play. You can carry such a device around, you can use your laser rangefinder to put on a light show while you're waiting to tee off, etc, you just cannot, under the ordinary rules, use it to measure distances or conditions.
The local rule grants an exception to this, under the conditions that the device that you use measure distance only. If you measure a distance, then, you must comply with this rule, because it grants you an exception to the ordinary rules. If you don't use a device to measure distance, the local rule is never invoked: it doesn't add any additional prohibitions, and using your phone as a phone doesn't violate rule 14-3, regardless of its capabilities.
Originally Posted by iacas
- If you're allowed to use a GPS, you can't use the iPhone just as you can't use a laser rangefinder that also measures slope.
- If you're not allowed to use GPS, the Rules of Golf don't prevent you from HAVING a phone on the golf course. You're simply prohibited from using ANY function (weather, GPS, etc.) that would help you in your play.
Makes sense to me.
Agree. I'm glad he posted that info, because thinking it through clarified (in my mind, anyway) the rules on this point. It does lessen my resolve that the rules make sense as written, though. I don't necessarily think a change is necessary, but given that this means that a Scorecard app is ok to use as long as you don't measure distances, I'm not sure I see that it makes sense to distinguish between capabilities and making measurements. I still agree that the rules are clear as they are, but I'm sympathetic to the idea that they're not entirely sensible.