Originally Posted by garybbq
Hey guys, sorry if this is a stupid question but when I search for Dan McLaughlin on GHIN I get 3 results, 2.6,10.4,2.6 and it looks like each has rounds played in May of 2014.
Why is there 3 index's?
One is his old GHIN account with Columbia Edgewater. Not sure why it still shows the same scores. One is some other guy with same name, I think. The correct one is the one showing Riverside.
Originally Posted by nevets88
At the beginning I was piqued and while I was dubious, I gave Dan the benefit of a doubt and thought, ok, the twist on this is that he's kind of melding this deliberate practice 10K hypothesis together with the old some guy dropping out of work and doing golf full time schtick and it's not some plain old just let people follow me vicariously bit so I was positive on the plan. PGA tour, no, but scratch, maybe. But he really didn't post much in terms of the deliberate practice angle on his website. I don't see even one high frame rate video of his swing. Nothing that I haven't seen before on long, short game, putting with regards to learning. He added nothing new to how we learn. All I see is a stopwatch counting down the hours.
Let's say he gets to legitimate scratch or better. We really didn't learn much about how he got there. In an age where it's so easy to record and post data, he took little advantage of this with respect to the learning angle. He has yet to write anything reconciling his recent putting performance and the two months he dedicated to just putting. I see a person who working folks desk and cubicle bound are living vicariously through, who don't care or aren't aware of improving the way we learn, it's just a superficial distraction - can he do it?
I think this is exactly right. Like many others (and some above), I was intrigued and initially fairly interested in the project. In fact, a google search of TheDanPlan led me here and I started posting on TST. Someone even accused me of being Dan's "PR Man" or something after my first post where I saw that Dan achieved some milestone, as I recall. (our first posts on a new site are always suspect!)
As I've seen how he explains the purpose of his experiment in more depth, it all loses steam. Go to the 7:45 mark of the video below and watch to 9:00ish. He has the chance to talk about how he is learning and what he is learning. But he just says cliches like "human potential is untapped" and "we haven't hit an apex in human society." At least he says that his experiment will not prove or disprove anything, it will simply tell him about his own potential. At 11:00, he says the we don't really know anything about human potential yet and that studies are really only starting in the field, so he feels he should encourage others to try their best to be what they want to be. Seemed like a paradoxical statement. What specifically about the project validates that we should apply ourselves with deliberate practice? What have you really learned and how did you learn it? It goes unanswered and seems like generalized happy talk. At some point you must connect the inspirational talk with real results and real learning techniques.
Like @Shorty says, if he never gets specific about what he's really learned and how he learned it, the general take for those who don't know the details may actually be some vague notion that deliberate practice is wonderful - and that Dan bravely paved the way for us all by demonstrating how diligent practice can help you be who you want to be. Nevermind that the experiment was in truth unsuccessful at its goal, and the practice methods were never revealed (and therefore minimal value in how to go about the idea).
By the way, a reminder of his goal from the web site:
During this time, Dan plans to develop his skills through deliberate practice, eventually winning amateur events and obtaining his PGA Tour card through a successful appearance in the PGA Tour’s Qualifying School, or “Q-School”.
Q-School doesn't exist, of course, but I just don't see any avenue to obtaining a PGA card, let alone winning amateur events and competing in any PGA event. I just don't see how he can get to a place where he declares success with his deliberate practice, and it will be harder to talk about "untapped human potential" so optimistically and with a sunny conviction.