Originally Posted by newtogolf
Agreed, my point was a +5 is tougher to achieve outside the US where scores must come from tournament play. A +5 in US is a very good player but given how our handicap system works they might not be as tournament ready.
This is an Irish Guy off +5, his majority of golf is spent on his home course (not casual, his HC is based on his weekly club comps)
It's a pretty impressive HC all the same considering he was an elite athlete for most his life in a different sport, whilst also having a 9-5 job at the same time.
(GAA football: our national game in Ireland if anyone is interested, the players at the highest level are professionals in everything bar receiving payment, the all have 9-5 jobs outside of the sport )
Anyway, his handicap, whilst extremely impressive is based on weekly competitions in his home club mainly.
He struggles (and admits that) to compete in the Leading Amateur tournaments in Ireland, and guys 4 or 5 shots worse off will better him.
I'm sure if he had the time to play more golf at away course that he could challenge.
He has played with GMac before, and he said the difference between him and GMac was immense. Like a mid handicapper to a scratch golfer difference!!!!
He also co-hosts a weekly podcast over here if any of you fancy a listen to it.
It's an extremely good podcast imo, covers the PGA and Euro tour and it's just basically 3 "average" (+5,14,15) golfers having a chat about the week in golf.
There is an excellent interview with P Harrington on 8th Jan, Paddy talks about having the yips!!!!!!
Sorry a bit off topic, but point was that even on this side of the pond, handicaps aren't always what they seem either (I would admit he is an exception though, most + guys are playing lots of tournaments outside of their home course)