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post #1459 of 1727
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Originally Posted by RFKFREAK View Post
 

 

I wish I could find a monitor near me so as to get an idea of what my carry and spin rate is.

 

That said, it'd be great if you could do it this week but don't let it be a distraction from your tournament preparation. 

Golfsmith, GolfGalaxy and more have them. Jus task to jump on and bring your driver up there. 

post #1460 of 1727
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Originally Posted by GHIN0011458 View Post
 

Golfsmith, GolfGalaxy and more have them. Jus task to jump on and bring your driver up there. 

 

I actually did that yesterday and got these suspect results.

 

http://thesandtrap.com/t/75642/interpreting-driver-fitting-numbers

post #1461 of 1727
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Originally Posted by RFKFREAK View Post
 

 

I wish I could find a monitor near me so as to get an idea of what my carry and spin rate is.

 

That said, it'd be great if you could do it this week but don't let it be a distraction from your tournament preparation. 

 

There is really no need for that. Find an open hole on a course and hit a dozen balls. Measure with google earth using known reference points with your laser.

 

 

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Originally Posted by GHIN0011458 View Post
 

I actually don't look at my swing.. so not sure what it could look like lol. It is probably funky considering I have never taken a lesson. 

 

I'm sure it's pretty good.

 

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Originally Posted by RFKFREAK View Post
 

 

I actually did that yesterday and got these suspect results.

 

http://thesandtrap.com/t/75642/interpreting-driver-fitting-numbers

 

I saw your videos, you have a lot of power with what appears to be a one plane swing. One thing I noted is that you go past parallel.

 

The numbers look really wild, but I think the average of 249 does not look that out of line with your 227 average measured with the rangefinder. Your spread on the course looks just as wild as on the golf swing monitor. The spread on the simulator is 52 yards and the spread on your course readings is 48 yards.

 

Since the simulator readings are 9.6% longer than your course distances, maybe your ball makes a difference or you might be more comfortable in the simulator. The simulator conditions are also more consistent and you can get "dialed in" better.

 

My guess is that your peak drives are actually 274, but because you hit inconsistently the average ends up so much lower. Seems like you should be able to average 250 yard drives if you swing a little more consistently.

 

Can you spray the face of your club with Dr. Scholls and post the pictures after taking 10 shots on the course and 10 shots in the simulator?

 

That might help you even if you don't post.

 

 

Off topic, so I posted in your "My Swing" thread.

post #1462 of 1727

In Portland City Championship

 

***I did have a breakthrough with my putting and chipping and kept that going, which is huge in the long run.  4,761 remain. Random Stat: shot a 48-40 for a dismal 88.***

 

And he is getting flown to Australia?!

post #1463 of 1727
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Originally Posted by BerkeleyRehab View Post
 

In Portland City Championship

 

***I did have a breakthrough with my putting and chipping and kept that going, which is huge in the long run.  4,761 remain. Random Stat: shot a 48-40 for a dismal 88.***

 

And he is getting flown to Australia?!

http://thedanplan.com/countdown/

 

Looks like he shot an 88-82 for 170 gross. If the Eastmoreland Course web site (http://www.eastmorelandgolfcourse.com/) is updated correctly, the winner shot 143, and Dan needed a 151 to place a T10.

 

The prior days' entries in the countdown narrative mentioned that Dan was as ready as he could be for the tournament. He scoped out the course, mapped the greens somewhat, and was riding high after the motivational seminar in Denver. I'd imagine it's got to be frustrating for him to shoot 88 his first tournament after the seminar, but Dan is nothing if not persistent.

post #1464 of 1727

Ouch, that always hurts to score high in a tournament. Especially after feeling very good about your chances. Blowup holes in a tournament will kill your confidence and cause you to rush a bit, so you have to make sure that the worst you do on any hole is a bogey or better.

post #1465 of 1727

Lets see, four of the par 4's were less than 350 and not a single par 5 over 500 in fact closer to 450, call me a hater but that is embarrassing for anyone to shoot that score with a sub 5 index or supposedly sub 5 index. The course only rated 71.0 at 124 slope and this is from the tips, if they played the forward tees then this has to be the biggest set back to date,

post #1466 of 1727
I nominate Dan for MacArthur fellow. There, funding solved.
post #1467 of 1727
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Originally Posted by Pretzel View Post
 

 Blowup holes in a tournament will kill your confidence and cause you to rush a bit, so you have to make sure that the worst you do on any hole is a bogey or better.

That's a good tip for tournament play!! Easy!

The pros should be aware of this important (and surprisingly simple) piece of advice on hard courses. 

I'm going to try it! B-) 

post #1468 of 1727
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Originally Posted by Shorty View Post
 

That's a good tip for tournament play!! Easy!

The pros should be aware of this important (and surprisingly simple) piece of advice on hard courses. 

I'm going to try it! B-) 

Easier said then done, as I can attest to (and anyone else who's played golf). That said, it is still good advice when you get in trouble just because it helps you remember not to be stupid and try to make a hero shot if you have a .01% probability of pulling it off.

post #1469 of 1727

Anyone see these articles recently? They showed up this week in my various news feeds:

 

Business Insider: New Study Destroys Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 Hour Rule
http://www.businessinsider.com/new-study-destroys-malcolm-gladwells-10000-rule-2014-7?utm_source=hootsuite

 

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In a meta-analysis of 88 studies on deliberate practice, the researchers found that practice accounted for just a 12% difference in performance in various domains. 

What's really surprising is how much it depends on the domain: 

• In games, practice made for a 26% difference

• In music, it was a 21% difference

• In sports, an 18% difference

• In education, a 4% difference

• In professions, just a 1% difference

The best explanation of the domain dependency is probably found in Frans Johansson's book "The Click Moment."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-study-destroys-malcolm-gladwells-10000-rule-2014-7#ixzz36tER60Hj

 

 

LifeHacker: Study Shows that 10,000 Hours Isn't the Magic Number

http://lifehacker.com/study-shows-that-10-000-hours-of-practice-isnt-the-magi-1601141560

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So, as is most often the case with these types of things, the 10,000 hour rule isn't really a rule. It's nice to think that we can all learn to do anything if we practice enough, but as The New York Times points out, it's nice to know that it's okay to quit too:

But letting go of the idea that enough practice turns anyone into a star can have its upsides, too. It may free us from self-blame if we're just not getting the hang of something. And if we've tried and tried and still don't succeed, it may give us permission to quit and try something else. Which, when I graduated from high school as a still-pretty-bad French horn player, is exactly what I did.

post #1470 of 1727
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Originally Posted by Shorty View Post
 

That's a good tip for tournament play!! Easy!

The pros should be aware of this important (and surprisingly simple) piece of advice on hard courses. 

I'm going to try it! B-) 

 

Heck.....I'm gonna go one better.  I'm gonna make sure the worst I do on any given hole is par or better!    ;-)

post #1471 of 1727
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Originally Posted by flopster View Post
 

Lets see, four of the par 4's were less than 350 and not a single par 5 over 500 in fact closer to 450, call me a hater but that is embarrassing for anyone to shoot that score with a sub 5 index or supposedly sub 5 index. The course only rated 71.0 at 124 slope and this is from the tips, if they played the forward tees then this has to be the biggest set back to date,


My guess is the average tour pro would shoot 65 there.

 

He is really only 1 shot a hole away from being a pro.

 

 

post #1472 of 1727
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Originally Posted by BerkeleyRehab View Post
 


My guess is the average tour pro would shoot 65 there.

 

He is really only 1 shot a hole away from being a pro.

 

 

 

I had to read this a couple times. lol :-D

 

A pro might shoot even less than 65, if she's played there before.

post #1473 of 1727
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Originally Posted by Lihu View Post
 

 

I had to read this a couple times. lol :-D

 

A pro might shoot even less than 65, if she's played there before.

I had to reread that too :)

post #1474 of 1727
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Originally Posted by flopster View Post

Lets see, four of the par 4's were less than 350 and not a single par 5 over 500 in fact closer to 450, call me a hater but that is embarrassing for anyone to shoot that score with a sub 5 index or supposedly sub 5 index. The course only rated 71.0 at 124 slope and this is from the tips, if they played the forward tees then this has to be the biggest set back to date,

Wow....I hadn't looked at the course before. He shot a freaking 88 there?! b1_ohmy.gif

I'd leave the country too! z2_scared.gif
post #1475 of 1727
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Originally Posted by David in FL View Post


Wow....I hadn't looked at the course before. He shot a freaking 88 there?! b1_ohmy.gif

I'd leave the country too! z2_scared.gif


He claimed a breakthrough on putting and chipping? I guess a 94 would have been a possibility if he didn't make up and downs from generous flat areas around the greens, the photos show a flat course, google map shows a course with no bunkers in front of any greens and some without any or only 1 flat one, he obviously has no control on his full swing and was probably punching out from behind trees all day, I think the guy is stalled right now by his lack of athletic ability, he has had numerous club fittings, workouts with a personal trainer, professional golf instruction and consultation throughout, and this is what he has to show for it all? My buddy who plays 5 times a year could shoot an 88 there.

post #1476 of 1727
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Originally Posted by Pretzel View Post
 

Ouch, that always hurts to score high in a tournament. Especially after feeling very good about your chances. Blowup holes in a tournament will kill your confidence and cause you to rush a bit, so you have to make sure that the worst you do on any hole is a bogey or better.

 

No offense intended, because you are a much better golf than I am, but I think this is terrible advice for tournament play. Playing  for "bogey or better" (or any score for that matter) is a surefire way to put up a lot of bogeys, and it won't ever eliminate the blowups. I will grant you that on a tough hole with lots of trouble, I don't mind making a more conservative approach and being happy with a bogey result. But I don't ever think taking the mindset of "don't make worse than bogey" to a course will lead to favorable results.

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