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post #1 of 17
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I only went out once so far and it was interesting.

My handicap is trending down at this point and my ball striking is improving quite a bit.

 

I currently play Callaway X-18's, they were not fitted.  I am replacing them for no good reason other then I have some mad money and I want fitted irons.

 

I liked the Adams CB2's the best on the one day I demo'd clubs.

 

I kind of liked the I15's but they were very dead, every shot felt great even if you miss hit it.  Very odd.

 

I did not like the sound of the Mizuno's.  They were both very "clicky" like I was hitting rocks.  I went in expecting to like them and was surprised that I did not.

 

I did not like the AP2's much either.  Coming from clubs with offset I think little or no offset was a big change.

 

I found it interesting that ping has no club between the I15 and a blade, S56.  I also was not fond of the look of the I15 Ping.

 

I am going to go back again and revisit all the clubs and try some Taylormade's also.

 

I hate the looks of the Callaway Razors, I am not sure what they were thinking.

 

Any suggestions on something else to try?

 

Thanks

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Originally Posted by inthecup View Post

I only went out once so far and it was interesting.

My handicap is trending down at this point and my ball striking is improving quite a bit.

 

I currently play Callaway X-18's, they were not fitted.  I am replacing them for no good reason other then I have some mad money and I want fitted irons.

 

I liked the Adams CB2's the best on the one day I demo'd clubs.

 

I kind of liked the I15's but they were very dead, every shot felt great even if you miss hit it.  Very odd.

 

I did not like the sound of the Mizuno's.  They were both very "clicky" like I was hitting rocks.  I went in expecting to like them and was surprised that I did not.

 

I did not like the AP2's much either.  Coming from clubs with offset I think little or no offset was a big change.

 

I found it interesting that ping has no club between the I15 and a blade, S56.  I also was not fond of the look of the I15 Ping.

 

I am going to go back again and revisit all the clubs and try some Taylormade's also.

 

I hate the looks of the Callaway Razors, I am not sure what they were thinking.

 

Any suggestions on something else to try?

 

Thanks

Actually, they do....the Ping Anser.

 

They have a super-game improvement set in the K15's, a game improvement set in the G15's, a competition set in the i15's, a competition set in the Anser's and a tour set in the S56's.

 

I'm not sure why you think they need any additional models?

post #3 of 17
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Actually, they do....the Ping Anser.

 

They have a super-game improvement set in the K15's, a game improvement set in the G15's, a competition set in the i15's, a competition set in the Anser's and a tour set in the S56's.

 

I'm not sure why you think they need any additional models?


I did not try the Anser, I was told they are a blade and I was quoted $1350!!!

 

I guess my observation is that the I15 lacks a little to much feel for my taste.  I like their engineering but I prefer a bit more feel.  I want the ball to fly as well as it can with a miss hit but I want to know it was a toe shot or whatever the case was.

 

post #4 of 17

When I went to dicks the other day I swung some Cleveland Irons and I really liked them. I think Cleveland has done a great Job making some Irons that have a lot of the things people like about blades without giving up the feel of a cavity back completely.

post #5 of 17
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When I went to dicks the other day I swung some Cleveland Irons and I really liked them. I think Cleveland has done a great Job making some Irons that have a lot of the things people like about blades without giving up the feel of a cavity back completely.



Thanks I'll take a look.

post #6 of 17

during my demoing, the AP2's and Burner 2.0's were immediately at the top of my list. two great sets of irons.

post #7 of 17
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during my demoing, the AP2's and Burner 2.0's were immediately at the top of my list. two great sets of irons.



The AP2 was my buddies fitted club.  Maybe that was the problem I will revisit them also.

post #8 of 17

I have the Adams CB2's. They are by far the best club I have EVER owned!!! I absolutely love them! The feeling off the face of those forged irons is incredible. It might just be in my head, but it really feels like you can feel the ball compress on & off the face. Spin is great. Distance is great! You wont be disappointed. These irons give you a lot of rom to grow in to them as well. I was like you when I started playing with these irons. Somewhere around a 19 handicap. Im now at a 15 and dropping, and ive only owned them for a few months. 

post #9 of 17

inthecup,

 

     I recently went to a large demo day that featured every major company. I had been wanting a new set of irons since I knew my swing had changed as had my iron specs, since I had been taking lessons for the past few months and practicing daily. I tried the Cleveland CG-16 black pearl irons, Cobra S-3, Callaway Razr and Razr X-tour, and Diablo Forged, Taylormade Burner 2.0, Titleist AP-1, Ping G-15 and i-15, Adams CB-2, and the Mizuno MX-1000, JPX-800, and JPX-800 pro. My requirement that I had set for myself on what I wanted in my new iron set were: great feel on impact and great sound, good looks that inspire confidance, forgiving and have several shaft options to chose from to match "me". I'll give ya a little break down of what "I" thought of the following irons. Disclaimer: the opinions are mine alone and I realize that some of the irons that I did not like are some of the best selling irons.

 

Adams: CB-2 black pearl irons,..... great looks and good feel,.... but just didnt make me say wow.

 

Callaway: Razr just didnt suit my eye and the Razr X-tour just didnt have the feel that I wanted even though it looked a lil better than the Razr

               Diablo Forged - wow,... felt wonderful, they looked good and sounded good and were forgiving as well. unfortunately the Callaway rep was less than helpful about shaft options.

               I wasnt crazy about the uniflex shafts. I figured if I was spending over $1,000 on a set of irons I could have gotten a little more attention from the rep about different shaft options.

Cleveland : CG-16 black pearl irons they looked great and felt and sounded just OK to me.

Ping : G-15 and i-15,.... as much as I tried to keep and open mind neither of the Pings got me excited.

Taylormade : Burner 2.0 they look pretty good but they are definately built for distance, but then again if you jack up the length and loft of a six iron to the usual specs of a five iron is it really

                   a six iron anymore just because it has a six stamped on it?

Mizuno :  MX-1000 they were very very easy to hit but man they sure didnt appeal to my eye.

               JPX-800 they were easy to hit, looked good and were forgiving but just didnt quite have the sound and feel that I was looking for.

               JPX-800pro They looked great, had that wonderful soft feel and sweet sound when struck well, and were pretty forgiving. They were forgiving just enough that you would be barked

               at instead of bitten on a less than perfect swing.

Titleist:    AP-1 they were nice but just werent the total package for me.

 

In the end the Mizuno guys tried many shaft options and fit the clubs just for me and my swing so I wound up with the JPX-800pro, and I love them more and more each day. The Callaway Diablo Forged irons were a great looking iron that also felt wonderful but the rep was less than helpful, so in all fairness to the club it was a very close second place to the JPX-800pro. Matter of fact if the Callaway rep had been as helpful as the Mizuno guys were I "might" have chosen them instead. But overall, I couldnt be any happier.

     Here is my suggestion: There are several different manufacturers that are making a game improvement forged iron now. You ought to take a look at some of the different ones out there.

 

Good luck and hope you find a set that makes you fall in love with them

post #10 of 17

Not to be biased, but try the Wilson Staff Ci9s

 

Forgiving enough. but still a thin top line and a great over all look and feel

post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Kieran123 View Post

Not to be biased, but try the Wilson Staff Ci9s

 

Forgiving enough. but still a thin top line and a great over all look and feel



I looked locally for these and they are not available.  They also have a 44 degree PW.  That is strong.  I'd like to hit them if I can find them.

post #12 of 17
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inthecup,

 

     I recently went to a large demo day that featured every major company. I had been wanting a new set of irons since I knew my swing had changed as had my iron specs, since I had been taking lessons for the past few months and practicing daily. I tried the Cleveland CG-16 black pearl irons, Cobra S-3, Callaway Razr and Razr X-tour, and Diablo Forged, Taylormade Burner 2.0, Titleist AP-1, Ping G-15 and i-15, Adams CB-2, and the Mizuno MX-1000, JPX-800, and JPX-800 pro. My requirement that I had set for myself on what I wanted in my new iron set were: great feel on impact and great sound, good looks that inspire confidance, forgiving and have several shaft options to chose from to match "me". I'll give ya a little break down of what "I" thought of the following irons. Disclaimer: the opinions are mine alone and I realize that some of the irons that I did not like are some of the best selling irons.

 

Adams: CB-2 black pearl irons,..... great looks and good feel,.... but just didnt make me say wow.

 

Callaway: Razr just didnt suit my eye and the Razr X-tour just didnt have the feel that I wanted even though it looked a lil better than the Razr

               Diablo Forged - wow,... felt wonderful, they looked good and sounded good and were forgiving as well. unfortunately the Callaway rep was less than helpful about shaft options.

               I wasnt crazy about the uniflex shafts. I figured if I was spending over $1,000 on a set of irons I could have gotten a little more attention from the rep about different shaft options.

Cleveland : CG-16 black pearl irons they looked great and felt and sounded just OK to me.

Ping : G-15 and i-15,.... as much as I tried to keep and open mind neither of the Pings got me excited.

Taylormade : Burner 2.0 they look pretty good but they are definately built for distance, but then again if you jack up the length and loft of a six iron to the usual specs of a five iron is it really

                   a six iron anymore just because it has a six stamped on it?

Mizuno :  MX-1000 they were very very easy to hit but man they sure didnt appeal to my eye.

               JPX-800 they were easy to hit, looked good and were forgiving but just didnt quite have the sound and feel that I was looking for.

               JPX-800pro They looked great, had that wonderful soft feel and sweet sound when struck well, and were pretty forgiving. They were forgiving just enough that you would be barked

               at instead of bitten on a less than perfect swing.

Titleist:    AP-1 they were nice but just werent the total package for me.

 

In the end the Mizuno guys tried many shaft options and fit the clubs just for me and my swing so I wound up with the JPX-800pro, and I love them more and more each day. The Callaway Diablo Forged irons were a great looking iron that also felt wonderful but the rep was less than helpful, so in all fairness to the club it was a very close second place to the JPX-800pro. Matter of fact if the Callaway rep had been as helpful as the Mizuno guys were I "might" have chosen them instead. But overall, I couldnt be any happier.

     Here is my suggestion: There are several different manufacturers that are making a game improvement forged iron now. You ought to take a look at some of the different ones out there.

 

Good luck and hope you find a set that makes you fall in love with them


I'll revisit the Mizuno's

 

post #13 of 17

I love my Yonex VMS - http://www.yonex.co.uk/golf/Product.aspx?ProdID=895. I'd definitely suggest giving them a go if you can find somewhere that does them.

 

For me they look awesome, they're light and balanced and they feel really smooth at impact.

post #14 of 17
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I love my Yonex VMS - http://www.yonex.co.uk/golf/Product.aspx?ProdID=895. I'd definitely suggest giving them a go if you can find somewhere that does them.

 

For me they look awesome, they're light and balanced and they feel really smooth at impact.


Not available here.

 

post #15 of 17
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Not available here.

 


Weird. They're listed on the Yonex US website but with no details:

 

http://www.yonexusa.com/displaysubcat.cfm?subcatid=20

 

post #16 of 17
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Weird. They're listed on the Yonex US website but with no details:

 

http://www.yonexusa.com/displaysubcat.cfm?subcatid=20

 

I checked the two largest retailers in my area.  They do not carry Yonex clubs.  I would want to be at a place where I could demo many clubs at the same time.
 

 

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I checked the two largest retailers in my area.  They do not carry Yonex clubs.  I would want to be at a place where I could demo many clubs at the same time.

 

 

Yeah absolutely. May just be that the Yonex US website's wrong anyway. :(
 

 

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