Originally Posted by sean_miller
By your own description you didn't in fact buy them sight unseen or without having hit them.
I bought my Miura's before hitting them, both sets (the TB's and the 1957's). When I got my Scratch SB-1's, I'd only hit the 7-iron (I had 3 of these made w/different shafts and grinds). When I ordered my Miura Tournament Blades, I went through the same builder that I got my SB-1's from. We made a few tweaks to my shafts (to adjust ball flight and better fit the Miura muscle) but left all other variables alone. When I got my 1957's, we left everything alone (basically just swapped heads). Like the Tournament Blades though, I'd never hit the 1957 before buying them.
You can hit them them well,
I can, I actually hit them extremely well. I honestly believe that at a given level of skill, a golfer can hit any club well, perhaps not optimal, but well. I mean look at the equipment that guys played 100 years ago, heck, 15 years ago. There was no such thing as a dynamic fitting, guys adjusted to their equipment. Don't take that the wrong way, I'm a huge believer in fitting your equipment to your game rather than the other way around but, at the same time, once you reach a given level of skill, you can adapt to the nuances of a given club design if you have to.
and based on your index and your commitment to the brand(s)
My index shows that I have a shred of talent and am willing to working hard. As for a commitment to a brand, I'm not brand loyal by any means. I'm more than willing to move from brand to brand to play what fits my game the best. My iron shuffle over the past few years should prove that beyond any measure of doubt. I do, however, believe in the products that I game. Right now my bag contains sticks from Callaway, Titleist, Miura and Scratch (backups) and I honestly believe that every one of these clubs are a fantastic product. If I didn't believe in them, I wouldn't be gaming them. I'm also willing to look outside of my comfort zone, my golf ball is an indication of that (currently gaming a Penta and I've never liked TM products in the past, go figure).
you're anything but a poser.
I sure hope not. I vigorously test and retest the equipment that I use on a golf course. Probably to the point of absurd. The bottom line is that I want to have the utmost of confidence in the equipment that I use. The more confidence that I have in my clubs/ball/whatever, the more focus that I can dedicate to my game instead of my equipment. Confidence is the exact reason that I put so much effort into assuring that I'm comfortable with every piece of equipment that I use. If I am not confident in a club, it will not survive in my bag.
On that note, I believe that everybody should be willing to do the same thing and I do find it somewhat of a poser move to show up to the course with equipment that just hit the retail shelves earlier that same day. I saw I guy gaming a 910 driver earlier this year in a tournament
just minutes after walking out of the pro-shop with it. I couldn't believe it. Truth be told, I was very tempted to game my tournament blades in a tournament just a week after getting them but, in fairness, I had spent no less than 12 hours on the range and 3 hours in on course practice with them. I had an expectation for how they would perform by then. The guy with the 910 hadn't even hit balls into a net with his new stick. His new 910 headcover did look sharp next to his AP2's though, much better than that old Cleveland headcover anyway.
Brands don't become poser brands because they're junk or because in the right hands they aren't fantastic. If they weren't, then they'd have to do a lot of marketing to fool people into thinking they were the top. I haven't seen too many print ads for Scratch or Miura, but I haven't seen too many for Ferrari automobiles either.
Ferrari's sponsorship of F1 etc is probably more expensive than an ad campaign anyway, but would you consider a Ferrari a poser car? I sure would. Is it a great automobile? Of course it is and every reputable review of them confirms that. I'm not a good enough driver to refute the reviews either way and to say that every person who purchased one is poser would be wrong. But still, many Ferrari owners are posers. It is what it is.
Remember when Nissan 300 zx twin turbos hit the market in ~ 1990? The best sports car value maybe ever. Nissan offered driving lessons with the purchase because there were so many people buying it who had no business taking it on the road. It was/is a great car. In the right hands, it rocked. A lot of people bought it virtually sight unseen because having the monniker "twin turbo" was cool.
I could go on, but I think you know I wasn't referring to you or anyone who's got game and did their homework. Unless you had decided to buy Miura or Scratch products based on tips from random forum posters . . .
Personally I think that "tips from random forum posters" are a decent way to get some basic information. Without those tips, I may not have ever tried Scratch or Miura. Hearing positive buzz about a product can open your eyes to a possible alternative that you may not have considered otherwise. The simple fact is though, you have to take these comments with a grain of salt. I mean, of course I'm going to say great things about Miura irons. If I didn't have great things to say about them then what in the hell are they doing in my bag? It doesn't make sense. I'd expect similar comments to from just about anybody about their current irons whether they're gaming Titleist, Scratch, Mizuno or heck, even Cleveland VAS (I wonder if anybody is still gaming these? After all, they do have a major under their belt).