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How important is getting fit for your irons

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Wanted to hear some opinions on it.  I am thinking of getting some new irons and if I buy them off ebay I can save 30% but can't get fit.  I've always used standard length and lie clubs, I know stiff flex is right for me, is there a reason to spend 300 more?

post #2 of 17

You can get the loft/lie adjusted after you get them for like $5-6 a club so that is always an option.  Just make sure you get the right length and shaft.

 

Having said that I would not risk buying clubs on ebay, there are a lot of fakes out there.  I think $300 would be worth getting fit for them and having the peace of mind knowing they are real.

post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 

thanks dark hunter.  On ebay, you have to know who your buying from.  There are many very reputable sellers and have bought many clubs without a problem.  If you know what your doing and not buying from over seas your alright.  300 dollars is lot of money to me.  The length is the one thing I'm not sure about.  I'm pretty tall, 6'1" and I remember a long time ago getting measured and I was on the line of standard and plus 1/2 inch..   I have always been a cronic toe misser (getting better as I am suring up the top) but thought a 1/2 inch longer wouldn't be a bad thing.

post #4 of 17

It would probably be better to get clubs that were too long because I am pretty sure you can get them cut down.  I would do some research and just make sure you get the right length.

 

And yeah $300 is a lot to me as well, if you are sure the seller is legit then I think that might be a good idea, then it would cost another $50-100ish if you wanted to get the loft/lie adjusted.

post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 

I've bought and sold a bit on ebay.  Dallas Golf, rock bottom, and a bunch more are very reputable.  Also being LH if is kind of a guessing game to what I buy.  Most golf stores rarely have the left handed clubs I want.  I have any idea of what I'm looking for and want, but not ready to make a move.  I've got to shoot in the 70s 50% of the time to be able to buy new irons.  There isn't anything wrong with my clubs, I am just like alot of people, always wanting something new.  I've had mine for 2 years now, didn't pay much for them, and wouldn't mind a change. 

post #6 of 17

I would definitely recommend getting custom fitted for your clubs, especially if you are 6'1" because the standard length might not be the best fit for you. If the clubs don't fit you then what happens is that you adapt your swing for the club which is never good. You definitely want a club that fits your swing. I know places like Golf Galaxy, GolfTEC, and several other places fit people for clubs. Also, cutting shafts lowers the weight of the club and actually affects the swing characteristics because the shaft was designed to perform a certain way at that length.

post #7 of 17

I used to think it really didn't make much of a difference and have alway played stock clubs. After several years of not playing much I decided to get back into the game this year. I sold my old Callaway's and bought a new set of TM Burner 2.0. I also took a few lessons to get my swing back in shape. After a couple of months of playing 2-3 time a week my game wasn't really getting any better. I felt like I was getting close but was still shooting high 80's low 90's every round. I decided to get fitted for a new set of Ping's and it's the best move I've ever made. After a few rounds getting adjusted to the added length (I'm 6'3") my last 2 rounds were 81, and really should have been lower had it not been for a couple mistakes. My last round I carded a 8 on number 4 (par 4) and still managed to shot a 39 on the front (par 36).

 

With all that said, I would say get fitted.

post #8 of 17

If you are very tall or very short, getting fit for length can certainly be beneficial (Shorter then around 5'9 or taller then around 6'1). Loft and lie adjustments are really something I think people should hold off on until they are at least a 10hcp or somewhere close. When your swing changes frequently with it changes your optimal loft and lie.

post #9 of 17

I'm also a taller, cost-conscious lefty who was in a similar situation.  I could've saved ~150 on my irons by getting them from eBay, but I decided to go the retail route and get fitted for the first time because it seemed like the wiser move long-term.  At 6'3" i got +1/2 inch on the shaft.  I tried the +1, but it made a 7 iron feel like a 4 iron.  I also have a problem with hitting on the toe and I had hoped the increased length would solve it, but no luck there.  It's a swing flaw that I recently identified.  

 

I also tried the lie adjustment, but decided to just play the stock version for now.  Basically I was hitting the most upright club possible and I still needed it to be more upright.  I might revisit the lie angle when my swing improves and becomes stable.  I also got larger than standard grips and I do like the feel of them.  

 

I can't really tell if the fitting was worth the $150.  I hit my new G10s much better than my starter irons, but a lot of that is due to the fact that they're much better clubs.  If it were me and the difference was $300, I'd probably go with ebay.  

post #10 of 17

I played stock clubs until a couple months ago.  My length is +1/2.  Not a big deal.  My lie is up 4!  That is a big deal.  I am hitting it better then ever.

I would definitely hit some off a lie board.  You may be standard or close, if so not big deal, if not you might want to make the investment.  I believe any Golfsmith would check out out for nothing.

 

By the way not all clubs can be bent.  My pro would not bend cast clubs.

post #11 of 17

For me, custom fitting was definitely worth it but I also had sold some stuff to come up with the money for my new clubs.  Like you, I knew the flex of shaft that I needed.  However, I didn't know which shaft in that flex would work best for me.  I also knew I'd need the lie adjusted and the shafts cut down (I'm 5'4") but, again, I didn't know by exactly how much.  I hit balls off a lie board to figure out the lie and shaft length I needed; I swung on Mizuno's shaft optimizer and used its recommendations as a baseline.  I then went out and hit clubs with the various recommended shafts and ended up with the AP1s in my signature.  These were my first truly fit-to-me clubs.  I'd had previous sets where the lie was adjusted and shafts were cut down but I'd never gone through a full fitting before purchasing the clubs.  And I couldn't be happier.  I've gone from regularly hitting in the low- to mid-90s to hitting in the upper- and even mid-80s.  There was an adjustment period but as I've gotten past that these clubs have really done well for me.

post #12 of 17

I have been fitted and would do it all over again. Regarding eBay, I wouldn't sweat it if you find a set from one of those huge dealers that have sold 50,000 items or something. I'm about a half-inch shorter than you, but because I have long arms, my irons are standard length and 2* flat. If you're going to spend the money, just make sure the fitter is someone you trust.

post #13 of 17

The days of buying clubs off the racks are pretty much over. Now days you really should be fitted unless your just a couple times a year golfer where spending that extra money would really be almost useless.

post #14 of 17

not to offend any of the higher cappers, but getting custom fit for new clubs should be the furthest thing from your mind

spend the gnote on lessons

it will make the game more enjoyable knowing your spending money on something that WILL improve your game

 

for the record - i have never custom ordered anything

i have purchased OTR clubs (95% from ebay) and play them at standard length , i am also 6'1"

i have had a few sets bent to a flatter or more upright lie, but not all of them

 

today i am a low single digit index w OTR Ping S56 irons black dot...which sit about .25" shorter than standard and 2* flatter than most

post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone for the replys.  I've got mixed feeling about getting fit and new clubs for that matter.  The thing about my game is inconsistant.  My swing is changing and hopefully getting better so I am going to hold off for a while.  New irons just look so great, The AP2s, MP53s, 710 CBs, all look great but you really have to be consistant to hit them.

 

Als my wife said if I can shoot in the 70s 50% of the time, I can get whatever I want.  I've been down the road of buying clubs to make you get better (mp 60s) and all I did was score worse.  So for now I'm happy with my old ass 775s with the shovelesk long irons and nice looking short irons.  Once (if) I get to the point where I am hitting the center of the club most times, I will make my decision then.  But the old saying of its the indian and not the arrow is still the truth. 

post #16 of 17

I just purchased a set of MP-57 from Ebay but as they said you just got to make sure you do your homework.  I saved myself $500.00 from buying a new set - so now I have more money to work with for a Driver and a Putter.  But I did have a friend who ordered a Driver from online (not Ebay) and it turned out to be counterfeit.  *The person who was selling the MP-57 was selling it because he bought some Burner 2.0*  Whats the deal with the Burner 2.0?  I did a test swing of the Burner 2.0 and it just seems to fly too much - like it is 1-2 club more than normal.  Or am I wrong?  I felt no response from it at all - The guy said that the Burner 2.0 was the number 1 selling set of clubs - I was not going to spend $699.99 for a new set of irons.  :/ 

post #17 of 17

I bought a set of Burner 2.0 a few months ago, and your are correct, they play at least one club longer. It's really a marketing ploy TM uses so they can spout about being the longest clubs. If you look at the specs the lofts of the irons are at least 1*- 2* stronger than most other companies, so naturally TM's 7 iron (31*) will go a bit farther than a Callaway X20 7 iron at 33* loft. They use a similar thing on their woods by making the stock shafts 1/2-1" longer to generate just a bit more distance.

 

Anyway, I quickly got rid of the 2.0's a got fitting for a set of Pings.
 

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Originally Posted by DefLord View Post

I just purchased a set of MP-57 from Ebay but as they said you just got to make sure you do your homework.  I saved myself $500.00 from buying a new set - so now I have more money to work with for a Driver and a Putter.  But I did have a friend who ordered a Driver from online (not Ebay) and it turned out to be counterfeit.  *The person who was selling the MP-57 was selling it because he bought some Burner 2.0*  Whats the deal with the Burner 2.0?  I did a test swing of the Burner 2.0 and it just seems to fly too much - like it is 1-2 club more than normal.  Or am I wrong?  I felt no response from it at all - The guy said that the Burner 2.0 was the number 1 selling set of clubs - I was not going to spend $699.99 for a new set of irons.  :/ 



 

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