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A few days ago I played a local municipal course that had an R11 for demo with 10.5 degree loft and fujikura regular flex shaft. I jumped at the chance to play a full round with this driver since I have heard good things about it. I didn't try to bother with adjusting the club, I left the settings to neutral and standard loft.

Playing with this club was AWESOME. I was ready to buy this driver after only a couple of tee box shots going longer and straighter into the fairway.

After playing with this driver I'm curious if there are any differences between the R11 and the Burner 2.0 besides the adjustability features on the R11. If the Burner 2.0 is the same club without being adjustable I'd rather make a purchase on that club instead as I don't see myself taking full advantage of the R11's features.

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I purchased my R11 two weeks ago and wondered the same thing as you. Here's what I learned;

1. The 2.0 is an 1-1/12 longer, allowing for added lenght (5-7yds avg) but also more wayward shots. The R11 is straighter and you will end up using the adjustments to fine tune it once you get used to it.

2. The 2.0 is generally for the lower handicap golfer

3. I hit both of them a lot before buying. I have enough distance off the tee that distance isn't an issue, so the added consistancy of the R11 was the tipping point for me.

4. If price is an issue, the R11s are starting to come down, I got mine new for $329.

Hope this helps. Good Luck

Golf is deceptively simple and endlessly complicated

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Thanks for that information. Price isn't much of an issue and I don't mind getting a pre-owned club. I am pretty much sold after hitting another good round with the R11 today. I was also able to test out a Cleveland SL290 which I did not like at all. I'm pretty sure I don't want to mess around and try any other clubs after reading your statements about the Burner 2.0. I'm sure it's a nice club, but wont work for me as good as the R11 has. Thanks again for the reply!

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im a 24 capper, i have the superfast 2.0 9.5degree loft, reg shaft

struggled with it in the beginning but that was my swing and not the club,

now my swing is getting better, i was averaging 280+ straight/straight draws last night according to shot tracker on my gps device.

i presume the R11 with all its adjustments could make hitting shots easier, but if your adjusting the driver to suite your swing faults are you not defeating the object of getting better?

That said, have a swing with both and buy what feels good, no point otherwise lol

:tmade: Driver: TM Superfast 2.0 - 9.5degree - Reg flex
:mizuno: 3 Wood: JPX800 - 16* Exhsar5 Stiff
:mizuno: 3 - PW: MP-67 Cut Muscle back - S300 stiff
:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
:slazenger: Lob Wedge: 60degree 10degree bounce
:ping: Putter: Karsten 1959 Anser 2 Toe weighted
:mizuno: Bag - Cart Style

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Surely the R11 is only as straight as your swing or the club head set up?

Originally Posted by Pope33

I purchased my R11 two weeks ago and wondered the same thing as you. Here's what I learned;

1. The 2.0 is an 1-1/12 longer, allowing for added lenght (5-7yds avg) but also more wayward shots. The R11 is straighter and you will end up using the adjustments to fine tune it once you get used to it.

2. The 2.0 is generally for the lower handicap golfer

3. I hit both of them a lot before buying. I have enough distance off the tee that distance isn't an issue, so the added consistancy of the R11 was the tipping point for me.

4. If price is an issue, the R11s are starting to come down, I got mine new for $329.

Hope this helps. Good Luck



:tmade: Driver: TM Superfast 2.0 - 9.5degree - Reg flex
:mizuno: 3 Wood: JPX800 - 16* Exhsar5 Stiff
:mizuno: 3 - PW: MP-67 Cut Muscle back - S300 stiff
:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
:slazenger: Lob Wedge: 60degree 10degree bounce
:ping: Putter: Karsten 1959 Anser 2 Toe weighted
:mizuno: Bag - Cart Style

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I have the R11 driver, because to me it feels better and is more consistent, because of the shorter shaft.

However what many are telling here is you ajust the club to get rid of a swingfoult is crap.

You ajust the club to optimise it. Take the spinrate down or up and the launch angle this has nothing to do

with swingfoults. Of course if your swing has a natural draw or fade you can ajust the club to get a more straight ball flight, but also this

is not have to be a swingfoult. If you play alot of different courses the ajustablity will suite also, playing in the woods you can have a higher ballflight, playing links golf a lower ballflight will be better.

If you hit shots off center i think the Burner is a better club, it's more forgiving than the R11.

so just try and see what suites you

Dirver: Mizuno JPX 825 9,5 Fujikura Orochi Red Eye Stiff 65 g.
3 wood: Mizuno JPX 825 14 Fujikura Orochi Red Eye Stiff 75 g.
Hybrid: Mizuno JPX 825 18 Fujikura Orochi Red Eye Stiff 85 g. 
Irons: Mizuno MP 59 3 / PW KBS Tour stiff shaft ( Golf Pride Niion )
Wedges: Taylormade ATV Wedges 52 and 58 ( Golf Pride Niion )
putter: Taylormade ghost series 770 35 inch ( Super Stroke slim 3.0 )
Balls: Taylormade TP 5

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yes because adjusting the club to help minimize that 40 yard slice into a nice 10-15yard draw is not compensating for a swing fault?!?

Perhaps i made a generalisation,

Indeed you are correct, the club can be fine tuned to a players likes/dislikes, making their game more enjoyable

but the reality is alot of the people buying this club will do so for the "adjustability/cureability" of swing issues, the same as people by draw or fade biased drivers, because its adjustable they just reckon they can set it up to cure there issues

:tmade: Driver: TM Superfast 2.0 - 9.5degree - Reg flex
:mizuno: 3 Wood: JPX800 - 16* Exhsar5 Stiff
:mizuno: 3 - PW: MP-67 Cut Muscle back - S300 stiff
:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
:slazenger: Lob Wedge: 60degree 10degree bounce
:ping: Putter: Karsten 1959 Anser 2 Toe weighted
:mizuno: Bag - Cart Style

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Originally Posted by carpediem4300

im a 24 capper, i have the superfast 2.0 9.5degree loft, reg shaft

struggled with it in the beginning but that was my swing and not the club,

now my swing is getting better, i was averaging 280+ straight/straight draws last night according to shot tracker on my gps device.

i presume the R11 with all its adjustments could make hitting shots easier, but if your adjusting the driver to suite your swing faults are you not defeating the object of getting better?

That said, have a swing with both and buy what feels good, no point otherwise lol


I wouldn't be using the adjustments to correct my swing error. I played two rounds with the R11 with normal settings and hit good shots pretty consistent with the exception of a couple sliced shots at the final holes.

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If you're not going to adjust the R11, why not just buy the longer but lower in price Burner and then have them cut the shaft down an inch?  By the way, Golf Galaxy in-store or online is offering $75 rebates on the Burner.

What's in the Bag:
Driver: Taylormade SLDR 12*
3-wood: Taylormade Burner 15*
Hybrid: Taylormade Burner 19*
Irons: Callaway XR

Wedges: Vokey 50*, 54*, 58*
Putter: Scotty Newport Studio

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After thinking about it, I guess I'll give the Burner a try before I commit to the R11. If I can get the same distance and control With the Burner as I did with the R11, then I will be adding the Burner to my bag.

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I purchased the 2.0 Superfast TP stiff shaft a few months ago and love the club and am hitting more fairways.  I bought the 2.0 instead of the R11 because I did not want to start adjusting everytime something new crept into my swing.  While I don't like hitting bad shots I want to adjust the bad habits rather than the club.

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  • 2 weeks later...
From what I've read the R11 is more of a players club and the Burner 2.0 is in the game improvement category. The Superfast has a 460cc head volume and bigger sweet spot. You can get the TP model which comes with a 45.5 inch shaft, .25 inches shorter than the R11. Check it out: http://www.taylormadegolf.com/products/drivers/Burner-SuperFast-2.0-TP-driver/product-detail-specifications

:tmade: SLDRs 14* driver, 17* fairway, 19* and 22* hybrids | :odyssey: Versa White #1 putter

:nike: XR Pro 24*, 27*, 31*, 35.5*, 40*, 45*, 50* irons | :vokey: SM4 54*, 58* wedges

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Originally Posted by pbyrne02

I purchased the 2.0 Superfast TP stiff shaft a few months ago and love the club and am hitting more fairways.  I bought the 2.0 instead of the R11 because I did not want to start adjusting everytime something new crept into my swing.  While I don't like hitting bad shots I want to adjust the bad habits rather than the club.

I'm playing the R11TP, and several of the guys I play with use this club (or the S) as well.

I haven't ever seen a player adjusting the head to fit the shape of a hole or to combat swing flaws that produce wayward shots... and I don't think that is the intention of an 'adjustable' driver.    While the R11 head did allow me to slightly alter the launch angle and shape bias to suit how I'd like to hit the ball, once I found settings that I liked, I've left the wrench at home.

That is the real benefit of these heads; allowing a player to set up the head to produce a more precisely defined ball flight.

In the Bag: TaylorMade R11 TP - TaylorMade R7 TP TS - Cleveland Halo - TM TP 2009 3-PW - Vokey SM 52 - Vokey SM 60 - Rife Barbados CS - ProV1x 


On the Computer:  Analyzr Pro 
 

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