Is there a bigger Tiger hater than Brandel Chamblee? - Page 2

Originally Posted by tmf9 

I mean I dont think Tiger is going to break Jack's Record anymore, but good lord I don't think I've heard him say one postive thing about Tiger recently, give the guy a break he's had hardly any practice and he's coming off a 4 month layoff...geez

Originally Posted by tmf9 

 

It certainly wasn't the greatest.  Correct me If im wrong but I think Tiger won at Firestone a few years being dead last in driving accuracy.  Ever since I started watching golf (about 5 years ago) I never remember Tiger being an accurate driver.  What set him apart was his irons and his short game.  Tiger is still a good iron player and you have to figure his short game will only get better with time.  Any golfer whos undergone swing changes knows it takes time, Martin Kaymer is getting a break now because he's undergoing swing changes, and he's certainly had more time to practice them than Tiger.

Originally Posted by tmf9 

That I don't know im not very familiar with Foley but I can tell you I don't think its Haney.  I think Butch would be best, but that would never happen.

Originally Posted by TourSpoon 

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I can never remember a time when Tiger's swing was broke until now. 

 

 

Originally Posted by bobsuruncle 

My take:

 

2. I like both Brandle and Frank Nobilo as analysts.  I don't buy the idea that you have to be a good player to know the theories and mechanics of a swing.  The best coaches in the world in most any sports you care to name (football, baseball, soccer, etc), were never the best players.  Why should golf be different?  Was Butch No. 1 in the world? and how about Hank?  Even Stan Utley couldn't consistently stay on tour year after year.  No one is slamming those guys as swing gurus.  They not only "analyze / comment on" swings, they actually teach swings. 

 

 

Originally Posted by turtleback 

Bit that is the point.  I haven't heard of ANY pros clamoring after Chamblee to be their swing coach.  And there are announcers who are respected enough to be swing coaches.  For example, Peter Kostis is Paul Casey's swing coach.

 

Originally Posted by WUTiger 

A bigger Tiger hater than Brandel Chamblee? I think several fellow Sand Trappers have outdone Chamblee in the past.

 

Chamblee knows something about a golf swing - he was among the top 100 money winners for six years running on the PGA tour. But, I'm not sure his analysis is worth that much more - or less - than any other announcer's.

 

And, I find the philosophical debate about whether Stack-N-Tilt deserves its own phylum in golf's swing kingdom to be tiresome. Quite a few teaching pros use Stack-N-Tilt, and it works quite well for some golfers - I sense SnT may work best for people with a certain learning style. We'll know for sure in a few years when kids raised on SnT start playing in college and on the pro tour, and whether they win or not.

 

A look at Chamblee's history shows he had a son die as a child, lost his PGA tour card in 2003, and cited credible family concerns for walking away from the tour. His Golf Channel gig, as he pointed out, requires him to be on the road 60 days a year, as opposed to 180 days as a tour pro. And, Tiger's family troubles and infidelity may be a psychological rub point for a family guy like BC.

 

Remember that the Golf Channel has problems of peaks and valleys in its programming quality, thus BC likely has a general tasking from his bosses to "be interesting." So, discussion of TW is a way to stir up controversy, so why not do it.

 

Links on Chamblee:

• Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandel_Chamblee
• BC's rather thoughtful "Farewell to PGA" column: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1001442/index.htm

Originally Posted by bplewis24 

Nice post.  

 

I just wanted to add to the thread that--at least from my view--the biggest punching bag so far this golf season has been Sean Foley... even moreso than Tiger himself.  Golf analysts and reporters have been taking shots at him all season it seems.

 

I also don't understand the compulsion people have (reporters, fans, analysts, golfers) to rush to judge Tiger's performance and make broad declarations on his future success based on one tournament a couple weeks after a 3-4 month injury layoff.  

 

Brandon

Originally Posted by TourSpoon 

I don't know...let's see...97 Masters...lapping the field at the US Open...14 majors... 6 Us Ams...would you change that winning formula for a couple more fairways? As far as Kaymer goes, he isn't even on the same planet as Woods, in fact, there was more distance between Phil and Tiger (2 and 1 in rankings) than there was between Phil and # 100.  The guy was untouchable, why he felt he needed to overhaul (not tweak) is beyond me and apparently Brandel Chamblee as well. I seriously don't understand the thinking. 

 

Originally Posted by jamo 



Especially in the mainstream sports media. The common theme on ESPN seems to be that Tiger's swing was perfection with Hank Haney, up and to the point that Haney dumped him (another often-forgotten fact).

Originally Posted by sean_miller 

Wasn't Kostis a swing coach and putter designer for years before appearing on TV? That's what I recall, but I could be wrong.

 

Originally Posted by turtleback 

 

His knee was shredding out from under him. 

Originally Posted by michaeljames92 

It's comical how people can judge something so quickly. All I'll say is "Rome wasn't built in day." 

 

 

Originally Posted by michaeljames92 

My argument is give the guy a chance to prove himself when he actually is fit and has enough time to practice. Tiger hadn't swung a golf club in months, and all of a sudden they expect him to be able to win tournaments with a swing he is still learning.