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No hard and fast rule here for distance.   If the ball is rolling on the hard ground I would just ignore it.  But if I hear a thunk, then that's hitting into me.  And that's why I don't like hitting an approach to the green unless the green is well out of reach if players are still putting out.

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My rule of thumb is, if your going to interrupt there concentration then don't hit the ball. Believe me, a ball landing 20 yards away can still be heard pretty well.

If its a tee shot, just wait till they all hit there 2nd shots, unless you know there way past your range

If its going for two on a par five, please wait till they get to the next tee, not just off the green.

If your laying up with a 3 wood on a par five and don't think you can get there, just wait a few. I have gotten hit into a few times, because they just happen to catch that 3-wood pure.

I would say, if your hitting the club, assume you might hit it perfectly in the center at your max distance. IF there past that and you wont bother them, which i usually take at least 50 yards, landing point, then go ahead and hit.

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It depends on the situation. I don't ever consider being hit into unless it is on the same hole. I was playing one time and we had a group of ladies (who were pretty good) playing behind us and they hit into us all day when we hit good drives. If we were waiting in the fairway with good tee shots, they would go ahead and tee off. Didn't bother me one bit. They would hit well behind where we were and never once came within 20-25 yards. Point is, they knew their limitations and after a while, I knew they knew their limitations so it wasn't a big deal to me. A few weeks ago I was playing and on a hole with a semi blind tee shot (part of the hole is blind) we were waiting for the green in the blind area. One ball hits way to the right of us and another hits just to our left. That was being hit into. I don't think it was intentional, but if you are waiting for a group most of the day (we were on 14) and you don't see them, and can see a different group on the green, it might be a good idea to drive up and see where they are. If I am on an adjacent hole, I would never consider that being hit into. Unfortunate sometimes? Yes, but not hit into.

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If the ball from the group behind me reaches my location or passes me, then you have hit into me.  I don't care if it's rolling when it gets there, you still took an unnecessary chance.  If you know what your longest typical shot is for the club you are hitting, then the players in front of you should be beyond that point before you hit.  We all hit that once or twice in a lifetime shot that keeps going beyond all reason, and I don't really have a problem with that as long as you attempt to give fair warning.  But to be regularly hitting close to the group in front is bad form.  Even if you don't actually hit into them, hearing that "thump" 5 or 10 yards away during their swing is going to unnerve them.  It's just not good etiquette.

One of the best features offered with some GPS carts is the ability to see the range to other groups around you.  I really like it when I pull up to the tee and see the guys ahead of me in the fairway of a par 5, and I can glance at the GPS and see that they are still just 250 yards away.  I can watch them pull away until  I know that they are well out of range.  Even though my normal drive is under 250, every now and then I catch one and send it out 280.  2 years ago I was still hitting the rare drive over 300 a couple of times a year.  So I try to err on the side of caution.  Usually that only means waiting a few extra seconds to let them gain a safety cushion.

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i go by the rule, 'if you have to think about if they're too close, they probably are.'

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In some of the threads recently people complain about being hit into.  This seems to be balls flying past in the air, balls rolling at feet, or even balls landing and rolling 20 yards away.  Golders seem to have varying "personal golf space".

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If I hear a "thunk" and a ball lands near me while I'm on a hole (a "thunk" onto the green after I've cleared it isn't a problem) I'll make it quite obvious that I think it's bad form to the group behind. If it happens a second time I'll walk over to their ball and tread it into the ground. A third time and the ball's mine or it goes in the woods.

For the sake of waiting 30 seconds for the group ahead to play their shots and move ahead I think it's rude.

What also bugs me is players in my group telling me to tee off or take my shot when I still feel there's a chance I could hit them. The third hole at a local course is a prime example; it's an academy course so is usually filled with kids and max handicappers who can't hit a ball. The green's 208 yards from the front of the tee box so a nice steady 3w off the tee for me will get me on the dance floor. I've lost count the number of times someone in the group behind has told me to tee off before the green is cleared. "You ain't gonna get there in one mate" or "they've taken two shots now, you may as well hit off" or "Whatcha waiting for? They'll be gone by the time you've taken your shot" which is normally followed by "Oh!" or "Sorry mate, didn't realise" etc

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If the ball is landing within 50 yards of me then that is hitting into me. For example, if I'm playing a 400 yard par 4, I better be on the green, or just before the green before the group behind me starts hitting, or I'm going to be upset. On a par 5, I better be at least 350 yards out before the next group starts hitting. 80% of people won't hit me from 300 yards but that doesn't mean someone who normally cant long drive can't get a hold of one every once in a while.
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Originally Posted by mikelegacy

If the ball is landing within 50 yards of me then that is hitting into me.

For example, if I'm playing a 400 yard par 4, I better be on the green, or just before the green before the group behind me starts hitting, or I'm going to be upset.

On a par 5, I better be at least 350 yards out before the next group starts hitting. 80% of people won't hit me from 300 yards but that doesn't mean someone who normally cant long drive can't get a hold of one every once in a while.


This is ridiculous.  If you do this then you are one of the causes of slow play.  I guarantee you that If you are 300 yards ahead of me, I'm not waiting any longer.  My typical drive is about 240, and these days my long drives might reach 280 if I get crazy roll.  If my laser says you are 300 yards away then I'm not waiting.  99.9% of all 300 yard hitters only exist on the internet.

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99.9% is not a true statement, because i have played with 6-7 people who can hit it 300 yards, not icluding myself. so its not that rare.. But lets not go there in this thread..

I would say, on Par 4's wait till they are up near the green. If there chipping, then its good, well unless its a drivable par 4.

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Obviously, flying into the group is a no-no.  But the yardage behind roll-up shot.....that's tough.  We have a par five at our home course that is reachable in two but if I don't hit a good drive I have little to no chance.  One day I was 265 out and I decided to go ahead and hit with the guys putting on the green.  I rolled it up to the front edge and it bothered them a skosh so I probably should have waited.  It's a hard call.


 

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Originally Posted by saevel25

99.9% is not a true statement, because i have played with 6-7 people who can hit it 300 yards, not icluding myself. so its not that rare.. But lets not go there in this thread..

I would say, on Par 4's wait till they are up near the green. If there chipping, then its good, well unless its a drivable par 4.


And what percentage of all the players playing that day in the city were capable of it?  I'm a mile high in Denver and there won't be that many players all day on a typical busy Saturday who can actually hit the ball 300 yards.  I'm just saying that most players know within 20 yards how far their max is with each club, so waiting for players to get to the green on a 400 yard hole is silly.  You wait till they are out of your range, and for most players that means when the last one in front of you has played his approach shot and moved forward a few steps.  By the time you address the ball and hit, he will be well out of range.

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I'm asking how close does a ball have to come for you to consider yourself "hit into".  What is your personal golf space?  I've seen people say they felt hit into when the ball stopped 20 yards away.

For me hearing the ball land is in the "hit into" category and so is a ball rolling to a stop anywhere within 30 feet of the farthest back person or equipment.  Anything outside of that is close but no big deal.

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what i don't get is why even bother discussing this, just wait till they get up near the green period. Whats waiting an extra minute going to hurt. I don't get this fascination with trying to finish a round of golf in record time. Honestly i have laid down a few times to rest on a golf course before, just to enjoy the day. I am not holding anyone up because there is no were to go, so might as well not press the issue.

Not to mention i have seen someone get knocked out before by a golf ball, its not pretty, the kid just went down like a sack of bricks. So i don't even try to come close.

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If the ball from the group behind me reaches my location or passes me, then you have hit into me.  I don't care if it's rolling when it gets there, you still took an unnecessary chance.  If you know what your longest typical shot is for the club you are hitting, then the players in front of you should be beyond that point before you hit.  We all hit that once or twice in a lifetime shot that keeps going beyond all reason, and I don't really have a problem with that as long as you attempt to give fair warning.  But to be regularly hitting close to the group in front is bad form.  Even if you don't actually hit into them, hearing that "thump" 5 or 10 yards away during their swing is going to unnerve them.  It's just not good etiquette.



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Originally Posted by Fourputt

If the ball from the group behind me reaches my location or passes me, then you have hit into me.  I don't care if it's rolling when it gets there, you still took an unnecessary chance.  If you know what your longest typical shot is for the club you are hitting, then the players in front of you should be beyond that point before you hit.  We all hit that once or twice in a lifetime shot that keeps going beyond all reason, and I don't really have a problem with that as long as you attempt to give fair warning.  But to be regularly hitting close to the group in front is bad form.  Even if you don't actually hit into them, hearing that "thump" 5 or 10 yards away during their swing is going to unnerve them.  It's just not good etiquette.

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