Originally Posted by Taylor Johnson
Wow. I tried to read as much of this as I could possibly handle. I think I got to page 6 or 7 before my brain shut down.
Parts of this are sad. Parts are funny, amusing, aggravating, inspiring, confusing, and just plain weird.
"Hogan Project" (I don't recall seeing your name at any point): I commend you for your persistence and your dedication along with your attention to detail. There are many people who could benefit greatly from these qualities you possess and exhibit strongly. I'm amused by your desire to try and do so much on your own instead of leaning on the decades of research, improvement in technology and probably dozens of PGA professionals nearby you that could help your golf game and accelerate your progress (the analogy of crossing the 390,000 sq ft desert with a tiny water bottle and no map couldn't be any better). I'm completely stumped by the "goal" that you continue to state, that you only desire to have a swing that looks like Hogan's. You seem like quite a character (I mean that in a positive way), hopefully I get to meet you one day.
Here's what I think: you love golf. I think most members on here do. You have somehow convinced yourself that you could never possibly be a scratch player (or better). You honestly do not believe that you can play par golf one day. So instead of setting that as a goal, which in your mind would be impossible, you set off on a separate mission, to imitate one of the best swings in history, with no "direct" intention of playing better golf because that is less scary to you (funny how you mention the "possible," "indirect" benefits that, "could" come from this. Read: SCORING). You can't seem to acknowledge that with your approach (NOT EVEN READING HOGAN'S BOOK!!?!, etc.) you've created an equally difficult task. I don't mean to sound harsh. This allows you to continue to play the game you love, while making progress on a chart no one else uses or relates to. You might not want to admit it, but you would get more enjoyment & satisfaction (I'm not saying it would be easier) out of saying, "I'm going to become the best golfer I can possibly be," and seeking a PGA professional, studying as much as you can, and practicing as much as you can. I guarantee it. I know we have different opinions but you cannot deny that you have chosen a more obscure goal than most members on this board. Most people just want to play better golf. You want to imitate a swing. Now if you fail, you don't have to face the reality that you failed at golf, you only failed at imitating Hogan, which to you is much less frightening. The fact that you play in tournaments and you keep score doesn't help your case. These are blatant signs that you want to get better at golf.
I would bet my house right now that when you get to "Take 100", even if you are able to make an absolute shining replica of a Hogan swing at 60% or 70% speed, or a 100% speed practice swing, when you take that swing to hit a ball at 100% or close to it, you will have significant breakdowns from P5-P7 and maybe worse. I would go even further (which I know you'll say is irrelevant to your goal) to predict that your average score will be within 3 strokes of what it is now. Especially if you're not spending much time on your short game.
I hope I don't sound negative. I'm just giving my honest feedback. I think you should consider taking some advice here and doing an honest self re-evaluation.
Thanks for the honesty Taylor. Lol, I'm interested to know what your definition of "sad" is and which parts of my project you categorize as so. My wife says all of it is sad and aggravating and just plain weird. Some of your analysis of me is spot on, but some is waaaaaaay off. I think what you've said goes back to a post I made regarding "golf goals" (not sure if you saw that one...it may have been beyond the 6th or 7th page lol. Unshut that brain and check it out....that may shed some light). I think the people that have the most difficulty in understanding what I am doing have yet to seperate their personal golf goals from mine.
First off, I don't just love golf, I'm incredibly addicted to it. But it's not specifically about golf. The love is about geometry, motion, analysis, physics, and trying to teach myself something new. Don't know if I'll fail or succeed....it's the trying part that is fun for me. There was nothing much wrong with my original swing, but I had no desire to score any lower because the guys I play with are competetitive in the 90's.....high 90's lol. I've never said that I couldn't be a scratch player or better, just that right now, scoring is not my focus. I'm happy and content scoring in the 90's from the white tees. Trust me, there may come a time when I get the swing as close as I physically can, and I get bored with the 90's and white tees, then I will switch focus to ball flight, trajectory, scoring, etc. (And knowing me, this will happen). Right now, this project is only about getting close to a specific mechanical movement.
Funny that you mention "to imitate one of the best swings in history." I remember when I first got the idea of doing this project. I was fooling around with Stack n Tilt that I found in a golf magazine. (I have a video somewhere on youtube of my S&T days). I got onto youtube and was researching S&T, and stumbled across some old B&W footage of a dude in a white hat. I had no idea who it was. Can't remember, but I think the video title or the comment section had something to do with S&T. Had no idea if he hit a draw or fade. Had no idea that he was considered the best ball-striker of all time. Had no idea that he was a dominator in his time. Had no idea of the majors and other wins. All I saw was a cool lookin swing lol. That's it. And if there had been someone sitting there beside me telling me of Hogan's myth and alleged secrets, I still wouldn't have been affected, cause all I cared about was the mechanical swing itself.
I haven't played in tournamemts yet, but it would be cool to play on the Golf Channel AM Tour. I've been playing with the same guys since 2007; we have lots of fun out there, but it would be fun to play with new people.
My absolute favorite part of your post is "if you are able to make an absolute shining replica of a Hogan swing at 60% or 70%." Lol, If I am able to do that, YES...I'LL TAKE IT.....SUCCESS!!!!
I herby state that I'm going to become the best golfer I can possibly be.......while finding out how close I can come to the Hogan swing mechanic.:)
Man, now I'm sittin here daydreamin....an absolute replica at 60 or 70%....whew, if I could do that, I wouldn't be doing any more project....I would be out enjoying some freshly cut green grass and some 4.25" holes!
So what side of the earth are you on? Hope we can get together and play a round some day....but I'll be hitting from the white tees. (This just sparked a question I have about which tees people hit from and why. Will post it in the main forum area).