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post #55 of 79
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Originally Posted by impactswing View Post

Telling them the average tour impact position is 40 degrees is what your video says. The elite players are more as my pics show. Yet in other threads you downplay the hips to target as low as 20% open as your video says, its more properly explained imo as toward the target.

Jim Furyk has even more open hips than most on the PGA Tour and hits it relatively short.

Discussing your single-concept swing philosophy is off topic for this thread. I recommend you start another thread to discuss your one idea about the swing (if you are capable of doing so without a sales pitch).
post #56 of 79
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Originally Posted by saevel25 View Post

Back heel doesn't matter. It is a byproduct of a good weight shift, nothing a person should focus on. 

The proper weight shift brings back heel off ground impact, its why every tour pro has the back heel risen, tge OP is flat footed and square to ball impact.

Not an IMPACT SWING.
post #57 of 79
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post

Jim Furyk has even more open hips than most on the PGA Tour and hits it relatively short.

Discussing your single-concept swing philosophy is off topic for this thread. I recommend you start another thread to discuss your one idea about the swing (if you are capable of doing so without a sales pitch).

Im telling the OP his flaw is impact. If you really understand IMPACT you point out clearly, you didnt get on the left side properly, you didnt fire and rotate your hips, look at rear foot the back heel is stuck to ground, see how pros are at IMPACT.

Wheres your belt buckle? Oh its facing the ball, look at these pros, where is there belt buckles? Almost facing the target.

The OP now knows what elite pros look like. Until I posted the pics he had no clear visual aid to SHOW real pros impact positions.
post #58 of 79
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Originally Posted by impactswing View Post


The proper weight shift brings back heel off ground impact, its why every tour pro has the back heel risen, tge OP is flat footed and square to ball impact.

Not an IMPACT SWING.

It is clear he has an arm swing only.The trick is to tell him how to change this and get some leg drive .

post #59 of 79
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Originally Posted by freedrop View Post

It is clear he has an arm swing only.The trick is to tell him how to change this and get some leg drive .

Now he can work with a mirror and try to hit the pro impact position.

Plus in future videos he can just focus on belt buckle and back heel.

If anyone gets near that impact position the game gets easy
post #60 of 79
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Originally Posted by freedrop View Post

It is clear he has an arm swing only.The trick is to tell him how to change this and get some leg drive .

Why don't you show us your trick how to do it freedrop?
post #61 of 79

If you guys want to help, @freedrop and @impactswing, then you should tell @MiniBlueDragon HOW he should be doing these things you want him to do, instead of simply telling him that he needs to do it. I'm sure that he knows he has to do them. I mean, seriously, it's like telling someone, "to get better at golf, take less strokes to put the ball in the hole."


 

@MiniBlueDragon, the hips opening up is caused by extension of the left leg. You can feel that you are jumping with the left side, or you are trying to drive your foot into the ground. Basically, you want to apply a lot of pressure on the ground with the left foot. Try to simulate your A6 position, and from there, "jump" with your left leg. Use the leg action to bring the club through the hitting area.

post #62 of 79

billchao...this Erik & Dave's site and student,they want to give miniblue the instruction on how to do this.If I make suggestions I get blocked from the thread.

post #63 of 79
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Originally Posted by billchao View Post
 

If you guys want to help, @freedrop and @impactswing, then you should tell @MiniBlueDragon HOW he should be doing these things you want him to do, instead of simply telling him that he needs to do it. I'm sure that he knows he has to do them. I mean, seriously, it's like telling someone, "to get better at golf, take less strokes to put the ball in the hole."


 

@MiniBlueDragon, the hips opening up is caused by extension of the left leg. You can feel that you are jumping with the left side, or you are trying to drive your foot into the ground. Basically, you want to apply a lot of pressure on the ground with the left foot. Try to simulate your A6 position, and from there, "jump" with your left leg. Use the leg action to bring the club through the hitting area.

 

 

 

Hey, a video talking about extension, getting the hips open and the belt buckle pointing in the right direction. 

post #64 of 79
Thread Starter 
I do appreciate the input everyone but it's probably best to actually read what I've written as well. In post 44 I said I knew I had to get the hips open as instructed by both iacas and mvmac but that I hadn't yet found out HOW to get the hips that open into impact. Focusing on my shoulders being more open feels like a good way to approach the hips problem, hence my question about the shoulders (hips leading shoulders and shoulders being open means the hips are open).

I appreciate the weight forward info but that doesn't feel like a problem (of course I could be well and truly wrong!). Here's my normal weight shift when I'm not trying to train things like open hips.shoulders:

post #65 of 79

@MiniBlueDragon, you're shifting too much weight to your left toes. In fact, your heel is actually off the ground at impact.

 

It's not as clear in these screenshots as I was hoping it was, but this is where you start to come off the left heel:

 

A7:

 

 

You get that pressure to move towards the heel more and it will open up those hips.

post #66 of 79

MBD....if at the top of the sing you don't feel tension on the inside of your back foot then getting back to the left side with driving hips and legs is going to be unlikely.It does not matter Sergio doesn't do it,we mortals need to do it.Square up that right foot and turn the left out more.If there is some kind of physical problem with this try dropping the right foot back a touch.You need lower body drive to initiate the downswing.

Frankly I would be surprised if you can feel that tension as things stand now.

post #67 of 79
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Originally Posted by freedrop View Post
 

MBD....if at the top of the sing you don't feel tension on the inside of your back foot then getting back to the left side with driving hips and legs is going to be unlikely.It does not matter Sergio doesn't do it,we mortals need to do it.Square up that right foot and turn the left out more.If there is some kind of physical problem with this try dropping the right foot back a touch.You need lower body drive to initiate the downswing.

Frankly I would be surprised if you can feel that tension as things stand now.

To be clear, @MiniBlueDragon has a lot of lower body action in his swing. It is not "arm swing only" as you mentioned earlier.

post #68 of 79
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To be clear, @MiniBlueDragon has a lot of lower body action in his swing. It is not "arm swing only" as you mentioned earlier.

It's not really action he needs but initiating drive,that isn't there.

post #69 of 79
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Originally Posted by freedrop View Post

It's not really action he needs but initiating drive,that isn't there.

He looks great..just to with it. Don't worry about the look, just worry about ball flight. Makes life much easier,
post #70 of 79

MBD....Ben Hogan had an extra spike in his right shoe for extra support since he angled that ankle in meaning the outside of that foot was slightly off the ground.This provided the support he wanted for the right knee creating the brace that would drive his hips and legs forward.Something to keep in mind.These guys have more tricks than we realize.

post #71 of 79
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Originally Posted by billchao View Post
 

To be clear, @MiniBlueDragon has a lot of lower body action in his swing. It is not "arm swing only" as you mentioned earlier.

 

agree on this point. @MiniBlueDragon needs to feel like he's squishing something under his left heel to in the downswing. We'll worry about the extension of the left knee timing later, but get that heel down and the weight pressing though it. 

 

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Originally Posted by freedrop View Post
 

MBD....Ben Hogan had an extra spike in his right shoe for extra support since he angled that ankle in meaning the outside of that foot was slightly off the ground.This provided the support he wanted for the right knee creating the brace that would drive his hips and legs forward.Something to keep in mind.These guys have more tricks than we realize.

 

Not really. Ben Hogan was anal about his golf swing. Most professionals are not that crazy. 

post #72 of 79
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Originally Posted by freedrop View Post
 

MBD....Ben Hogan had an extra spike in his right shoe for extra support since he angled that ankle in meaning the outside of that foot was slightly off the ground.This provided the support he wanted for the right knee creating the brace that would drive his hips and legs forward.Something to keep in mind.These guys have more tricks than we realize.

 

Yes, and it turns out that the extra spike was basically completely unnecessary. There's not much torque placed on the rear foot during the golf swing, and there's not a lot of pressure against the ground during the downswing either - there's almost no "pushing off" with the trail foot like it might "feel like" to a player.

 

This has all been measured using systems that are, obviously, far, far more accurate than our own "feels."

 

The topic of Hogan's extra spike came up when we last visited Dr. Kwon near Dallas.

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