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post #505 of 561
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Originally Posted by Beachcomber View Post

It's bowed a hair, and the face is closed.  

Now the most analyzed left wrist in the history of the Sand Trap!  I think we all can agree it is closer to flat than it is to DJ level "bowednessing".  a2_wink.gif

post #506 of 561

Something like this might be good to look into to.  Impact Ball, Pipoe, nerf ball or a small soccer ball.  Think it would help all the stuff you mentioned in your post.

 

post #507 of 561
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The impact ball/pipoe - it helps with spacing between the elbows.  How will that help reduce the early extension?  Does it simply ensure that my right elbow doesn't get stuck on the side of my hip at A5++?  Ensures it gets into my belly - and gives the hands a clear path into impact?

 

I've tried Drew's pipoe at the range, and it was definitely a very foreign feel.  Something that I know is missing in my right arm...

 

EDIT: I just went and bought a Pipoe online Mike. Just another thing to add to my collection of gadgets! f4_glare.gif

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Originally Posted by mvmac View Post

Something like this might be good to look into to.  Impact Ball, Pipoe, nerf ball or a small soccer ball.  Think it would help all the stuff you mentioned in your post.

 

post #508 of 561
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Originally Posted by Beachcomber View Post

The impact ball/pipoe - it helps with spacing between the elbows.  How will that help reduce the early extension?  Does it simply ensure that my right elbow doesn't get stuck on the side of my hip at A5++?  Ensures it gets into my belly - and gives the hands a clear path into impact?

 

Because it's pretty tough to early extend if the elbows don't spread apart, allows you to get the handle lower.  Or early extend to the point where it's bad.  Every great golfer has some degree of early extension.

 

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EDIT: I just went and bought a Pipoe online Mike. Just another thing to add to my collection of gadgets! f4_glare.gif

 

 

You'll like it.  Just do slow swings with it at first.  I might film a few of myself today.

post #509 of 561
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Originally Posted by Beachcomber View Post

The idea? It's just an anatomical anomaly found in my swing?  I don't consciously do it... It just happens.  

 

I've tried to actively cup my wrist at address (middle image), and maintain that cup throughout the swing. But have found during the loading of the shaft - into the transition from A4 to A4++++ it just happens to palmar flex or bowe (right image).  For the most part I can get away with it, but when my tempo gets too quick, my longer irons and fairways tend to come off at a lower trajectory than I'd like to see.  

 

 

 

Working with the 5SK/Evolvr guys, the swing pattern that they have me working on is ideal to hit a push draw.  But to be honest, my ball flight tends to be pretty straight to a slightly straight pull.  Some of that I believe is the result of my wrist conditions (bowed) which leads to a slightly closed clubface at impact.  

 

Ultimately, I'd like to hit high push draws - or even high pull cuts.... My dynamic loft needs to improve...  And that can only happen if I can bring my angle of attack - and approach on the positive side.

 

The big issue I have is with Key #1 at A7:

 

 

 

one thing I don't understand is that if you move your weight to the left side and cause your spine to tilt to your right side as a result, that should result in the new head position right?  how do you slide your weight to the left without a lowering and rightward movement of the head.  afaik all the guys that slide their weight over get the dropping head.

post #510 of 561
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one thing I don't understand is that if you move your weight to the left side and cause your spine to tilt to your right side as a result, that should result in the new head position right?  how do you slide your weight to the left without a lowering and rightward movement of the head.  afaik all the guys that slide their weight over get the dropping head.

 

Is dropping the head really all that bad?

post #511 of 561
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Is dropping the head really all that bad?

 

Nope

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by theworldengine View Post

 

one thing I don't understand is that if you move your weight to the left side and cause your spine to tilt to your right side as a result, that should result in the new head position right?  how do you slide your weight to the left without a lowering and rightward movement of the head.  afaik all the guys that slide their weight over get the dropping head.

 

As stated above, a little downward movement and even some rightward movement is fine.

Might be a good thread for you to check out

http://thesandtrap.com/t/54115/weight-forward-and-secondary-axis-tilt

post #512 of 561
Thread Starter 

I just had an interesting range session... Tried to really get my elbows close at address, and maintain that.  I wanted to feel like this coming into the ball...  With that clubhead lagging behind the ball...

 

And tried to cut my finish like this....

 

 

That was fun... I hit some trajectories that were piercing.  Gonna roll with these feels for awhile and keep practicing it until the Pipoe gets here...

post #513 of 561

That is the exact feel that got me into an improved A4 position that I was aiming for.  I tuck the right elbow into the stomach at address and then feel like it stays there.  I really like the trajectory you get with it as well.  

post #514 of 561
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Originally Posted by Beachcomber View Post

I just had an interesting range session...

Did you almost die from the heat too??? 100 degrees and HUMID in Lake Forest when I hit balls at lunch...

post #515 of 561
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Originally Posted by cipher View Post

That is the exact feel that got me into an improved A4 position that I was aiming for.  I tuck the right elbow into the stomach at address and then feel like it stays there.  I really like the trajectory you get with it as well.  

Yeah, I try not to get too fixated on it in the backswing... More of a firm placement at address - ensure it's tight.  Then let it go... 

 

I found if I try and maintain that firm - or really close feel throughout, I tend to simply hit pushes out to the right.  Nice and high... But pushed too far off my target (20yds).   But if I get that firm feeling at address, then just focus on a nice smooth one piece takeaway, with the arms/shoulders/hips in sequence... I can hit some nice push draws.  Especially with the finish to A9 like DD.

post #516 of 561

Interesting thread title. Hmm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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post #517 of 561
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Interesting thread title. Hmm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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LOL!  I was like "Oh interesting, Beach started a thread about his specific problem right now" then was like "Wait, wtf?  How does it already have 515 posts?!?!"

 

I get it now. ;)

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post #519 of 561
Love the new thread title. We can probably put my swing thread in here as well.
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post #521 of 561
Epic.
post #522 of 561

Is that what we are supposed to do now in this thread is post sexy pitch elbow pictures?  a3_biggrin.gif

 

Edit: I also think something indecent it coming out of those shorts above.  That is disturbing...g2_eek.gif   

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