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post #55 of 63
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One of the better videos Mr. Crossfield has put out. I like showing the slight axis tilt (right shoulder bellow the left), and how he shows that right hip going back and up. 

 

Amazing how common those positions are. Hips don't turn, hips slide back, lead knee kicks in, arms have to bend in order to get the club to complete some kind of backswing, then they cover it with their upper center while the lower center stays back.

post #56 of 63
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Amazing how common those positions are. Hips don't turn, hips slide back, lead knee kicks in, arms have to bend in order to get the club to complete some kind of backswing, then they cover it with their upper center while the lower center stays back.

Not to get off-topic, but I forgot ... what does the lead knee do in a center pivot on the backswing?

 

At address, foot is flared and legs are buckled outwards. I assume that stabilizes the front knee. Does it kick out (towards ball), flex slightly inwards, or do nothing much at all? by the top of the backswing.

post #57 of 63
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Not to get off-topic, but I forgot ... what does the lead knee do in a center pivot on the backswing?

 

At address, foot is flared and legs are buckled outwards. I assume that stabilizes the front knee. Does it kick out (towards ball), flex slightly inwards, or do nothing much at all? by the top of the backswing.

 

Knee goes from slightly outside the lead hip joint at 1 to inline or slightly inside the hip joint at 4. Knee being rotated outwards regulates how far back the knee can go. 

 

 

Lead knee gains flex and has some inward movement. By blending these two movements the hips can continuously turn throughout the backswing and stay centered.

 

This is why good turning rates are important for keeping the arms from over swinging and/or pulling  the rear elbow behind the shirt seam. If the player translates the hip center right, the tendency would be to slide the rear elbow behind him (if there is an effort to keep their pressure points) or lift the arms (out of sequence with pivot). The continuous movement of the hips, left going down, right going up and around, keeps the arms "in check" and in sequence with the pivot.

post #58 of 63

^^^^^

 

Thank you for the pics and succinct explanation.

 

Appreciate it.

 

(my knee was apparently pointing out towards the ball recently, and after it was pointed out, I fear that my inward movement was now exaggerated ... it was. This clarifies the correct move.)

post #59 of 63

I'm working on getting a centered pivot, and my issue is I have trouble with my head moving down towards the ground about 2 or 3 inches in the back swing, could this be because as I get toward the top of my back swing I don't extend or stand up a little like you mention in your video? I've gotten it to where I keep my head pretty steady left to right, but can't still figure out why I dip my head a little bit in the back swing.

post #60 of 63
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I'm working on getting a centered pivot, and my issue is I have trouble with my head moving down towards the ground about 2 or 3 inches in the back swing, could this be because as I get toward the top of my back swing I don't extend or stand up a little like you mention in your video? I've gotten it to where I keep my head pretty steady left to right, but can't still figure out why I dip my head a little bit in the back swing.

 

The head doesn't have to stay perfectly level, it can go down a bit, especially if it happens towards the end of your backswing. If you feel like it goes down too much you can add more "stretch".

 

post #61 of 63
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The head doesn't have to stay perfectly level, it can go down a bit, especially if it happens towards the end of your backswing. If you feel like it goes down too much you can add more "stretch".

I read on the 5sk site that some vertical head movement is ok, but lateral is bad. If I have vertical head movement doesn't that mean I need to compensate in someway? It does happen about 3/4 of the way back when I start to stretch and really push to get my shoulders turned 90*.

Also is there any drills that can help me keep my head centered in the downswing, I have problems keeping my head centered while sliding my hips and weight forward.

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post #62 of 63

@Slowcelica ,

 

When you use a quote, you need to put your response outside the quote box.  Otherwise, responders cannot quote you.

 

The best drills are just going through your swing sequence slowly and repeating the proper movement.  For the head dipping, which I have had, I worked on going from A1, setup, to A4, top of the backswing, with the feeling of stretching my right side as much as I could.  Feel like the right shoulder is going as high as possible and your shoulders are turning as much as possible.  Add to that the feeling of your arms being as long as possible with the right arm being as straight as possible.

 

Do this in front of the mirror if you can.  You can even do it without a club.  See the video below (@sk golf).  I use the first parts without a club to get the feeling.

 

 

post #63 of 63
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@Slowcelica
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When you use a quote, you need to put your response outside the quote box.  Otherwise, responders cannot quote you.

The best drills are just going through your swing sequence slowly and repeating the proper movement.  For the head dipping, which I have had, I worked on going from A1, setup, to A4, top of the backswing, with the feeling of stretching my right side as much as I could.  Feel like the right shoulder is going as high as possible and your shoulders are turning as much as possible.  Add to that the feeling of your arms being as long as possible with the right arm being as straight as possible.

Do this in front of the mirror if you can.  You can even do it without a club.  See the video below (@sk golf
).  I use the first parts without a club to get the feeling.


 

Oops I'm usually in my phone so sometimes that happens :)

Thanks I'll give this video a look, I usually practice it in front of a mirror so that won't be an issue. Last night I made a point of setting up with a little more weight to my front side more like s&t and I think that helped some.
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