Originally Posted by Jack Player
You biomechanical guys really cheese me off sometimes with that 'feel isn't real' line. We're all god damn humans aren't we? I understand that feel isn't always real but a good 'feel' description can go a long way in instruction.
http://si.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1132508/3/index.htm (start reading 4 lines down at THE HIPS)
If you want to disagree with me about the shoulders pulling the hips then I'm sure no one will put up a big fuss,... but if you're going to use the 'feel isn't real' fallback yet again with Mr Hogan's caps lock description then I'm done with this conversation.
Whenever you hear someone say something (a hall of famer I might add) that doesn't fall in line with your understanding of the swing you can't just cry out 'feel isn't real'
You can't necessary get a full understanding of the way a car engine works by studying how each individual part moves.
duh we are humans, except Tiger, he's an android designed to rule the golfing world. The only reason he is doing bad is because they forgot to maintenance him.
No, what goes a long way is having a player develop his "OWN" feel. That way the instructor isn't trying to fit a square peg into a circle hole.
Here's the thing, we are humans. That means how we feel what is happening in the golf swing is different. My old golf instructor wanted me to feel my left side going through the hitting zone (back of my left hand). I can't feel my left side doing much of anything. I am a total right side dominant guy. Meaning, what he wanted me to "FEEL" wasn't going to happen, even if it works for him.
In the case of the right knee straightening. At least you agree with that it should. Also don't quote Ben Hogan. Here is the thing about Ben Hogan, what he was describing what "HE DID". Not what you can do, or I can do, or any other amateur can do, but only what "HE DID" in his golf swing. It is a feel that worked for him. It might work for someone else, but it is not a general "what happens" with everyone.
Shoulders do not pull the hips. The hips pull the hips. If a golfer can get to that position with just feeling shoulder turn good job. Some people might feel their hips going back and up, or a stretch in the lower right back. Some might need to feel the knee moving. Does this mean that it is out of sequence, NO. Feeling something move means nothing in the order of which they do move.
Yea but we are talking about the golf swing here, not a car.