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post #55 of 81

Re: Wedge Shaft Flex vs Stiff Flex, Spinners, Etc.

Originally Posted by kpaulhus View Post
That depends on the type of ball, too. I doubt Tim Clark was playing a Callaway Warbird at The Players.
Top Flite XL circa 1998 actually. He got a great deal on em by bulk. Bought em in yellow too, but ppl think he was using a Srixon...ppl be craaaazay maaaan
post #56 of 81

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Originally Posted by Gioguy21 View Post
Top Flite XL circa 1998 actually. He got a great deal on em by bulk. Bought em in yellow too, but ppl think he was using a Srixon...ppl be craaaazay maaaan
LMAO I was saying NO WAY as I was reading, until I got to the last line lololol
post #57 of 81

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Originally Posted by trumpetgolf View Post
What makes it a wedge shaft vs a non-wedge shaft? Is there a reason you couldn't put these in other clubs? Also, where does the "Wedge" flex fit into the scheme of the TTDG, stiffer than S300?
Do a search on "wedge flex" here in the Golf Equipment forum. Last Fall, we had at least two good threads on the topic, with several links to technical golf sites on the matter.
post #58 of 81

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I'm just curious how the new DG Spinner wedge shaft from True Temper actually works to create more spin out of wedge shots.

Knowing absolutely nothing about it, I would assume, that it has something to do with shaft flex and lag at point of impact?

Anyways I am really curious about it, if anyone has the low-down then please let me know.
post #59 of 81

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Originally Posted by Genericity View Post
I'm just curious how the new DG Spinner wedge shaft from True Temper actually works to create more spin out of wedge shots.

Knowing absolutely nothing about it, I would assume, that it has something to do with shaft flex and lag at point of impact?

Anyways I am really curious about it, if anyone has the low-down then please let me know.
Im not sure the exact reason why it does it but I used the DG high launch shafts and they seemed lighter and had were whippy for a stiff flex. Those shafts would throw the ball up so high on every iron. I had 7 iron shots spinning backwards on a normal basis with them, so I didnt like them. Would be good for a senior player though. Im sure these spinner wedge shafts are the same way.
post #60 of 81

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I believe it has to do with the kick-point, but I truly do not know much about shafts.
post #61 of 81

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Originally Posted by motteler621 View Post
Im not sure the exact reason why it does it but I used the DG high launch shafts and they seemed lighter and had were whippy for a stiff flex. Those shafts would throw the ball up so high on every iron. I had 7 iron shots spinning backwards on a normal basis with them, so I didnt like them. Would be good for a senior player though. Im sure these spinner wedge shafts are the same way.
actually the spinner shaft was designed to the exact opposite. They wanted to promote a lower launch trajectory, so if you look at the shaft, it supposedly gets slightly thinner below the grip (give it a high kickpoint maybe?). My guess is something to do with the kick point as well.
post #62 of 81

Re: Wedge Shaft Flex vs Stiff Flex, Spinners, Etc.

Are we all agreeing that it changes the ball trajectory (from high to mid, or mid to low)? I was under the impression that it would perform in the same fashion as regular wedge shafts but (bonus time) add more spin.....
post #63 of 81

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i'm not the most knowledgable when it comes to shafts but I'm curious as to how the high kickpoint promotes more spin.

On a driver typically, a high kick point promotes lower, less spin trajectory. So assuming on a wedge shaft, the high kick point promotes a lower trajectory...where and how does the high spin come in effect?
post #64 of 81

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Originally Posted by golfro View Post
i'm not the most knowledgable when it comes to shafts but I'm curious as to how the high kickpoint promotes more spin.

On a driver typically, a high kick point promotes lower, less spin trajectory. So assuming on a wedge shaft, the high kick point promotes a lower trajectory...where and how does the high spin come in effect?
I thought with wedges the lower the trajectory the more spin you get. So by lowering the trajectory of the shot they are also increasing the spin at the same time. How the relationship happens I am not sure.
post #65 of 81

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It launches the ball lower but with more spin.
I'd say the two must cancel each other out since it's only a couple hundred RPM, just a marketing ploy.
that's what I think anyway.

It's like when you hit a chip shot that comes out hot but with a load of spin, it'll still check up but you could just throw the ball up into the air and it'll stop the same if not quicker.
post #66 of 81

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Originally Posted by golfro View Post
i'm not the most knowledgable when it comes to shafts but I'm curious as to how the high kickpoint promotes more spin.

On a driver typically, a high kick point promotes lower, less spin trajectory. So assuming on a wedge shaft, the high kick point promotes a lower trajectory...where and how does the high spin come in effect?
I haven't tried this myself, but I am curious so maybe I will have such a shaft installed in my 58* ..... I doubt of adding 700 rpm will add much, we'll see.

This is what I could find at the True Temper Website :

"The DG Spinner has been designed to increase ball spin during those all important wedge and approach shots. Powered by a specially engineered section just beneath the grip, DG Spinner can increase your ball’s spin rate by as much as 700+ RPM.

The result: A wedge shot with greater stopping power on the green and the proven accuracy that has made Dynamic Gold technology the number one iron shaft on tour. "
post #67 of 81

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Originally Posted by Gerald View Post
I haven't tried this myself, but I am curious so maybe I will have such a shaft installed in my 58* ..... I doubt of adding 700 rpm will add much, we'll see.

This is what I could find at the True Temper Website :

"The DG Spinner has been designed to increase ball spin during those all important wedge and approach shots. Powered by a specially engineered section just beneath the grip, DG Spinner can increase your ball’s spin rate by as much as 700+ RPM.

The result: A wedge shot with greater stopping power on the green and the proven accuracy that has made Dynamic Gold technology the number one iron shaft on tour. "
Sounds like a specific bit of shaft engineering but not sure how it would work. One thing you can try if you're using 0.370" parallel tipped shafts is to tip one for, say, an 8- or 9-iron and install it in a PW i.e. soft step it. Seen this talked about quite a bit on other forums as one way to give a bit more rip to a wedge. Not tried it but I guess this would make the tip a bit more active through the ball and (hopefully) lead to more spin. Might be able to install a 8- or 9-iron 0.355" taper shaft into a wedge and get a similar effect....perhaps.
post #68 of 81

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Catalog info on the Rifle Spinner Wedge shaft:
- Offered in PrX flexes 4.5 to 6.5, in half flex increments.
- All flexes have mid/low bend point, and medium tip stiffness.

Playability factor code (what shaft delivers) is *B2M. (* replaces SPF flex code digit indicating what club you hit from 150 yds: 3 = 6i / 5 = 8i)
* = Distance digit
B = Mix of distance and control
2 = Medium trajectory
M = No correction (for hook or slice)

Spinner 4.5 would have code 3B2M
Spinner 6.5 would have code 5B2M.

Golf Galaxy crew says spinner flex is good for people who hit mostly partial wedge shots, rather than full ones.
post #69 of 81

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I am also interested in these shafts, there is a guy on ebay that is selling new scratch wedges with this shaft and didn't know anything but here is a link:

http://thelaunchmonitor.com/index.ph...ix13&Itemid=53

seems to work if believe the numbers....
post #70 of 81

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How many of you play non-standard shafts in your wedges? Intuitively, it makes sense to put the same shafts in your wedges that you have in your irons, but is there a reason for playing a different flex? What are the pros and cons of stiffer/weaker shafts in wedges?
post #71 of 81

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I can't answer your pros and cons question, but I can point out that when I was looking at Titleist wedges when I bought mine, the standard spec was a stiff shaft. I got them custom with regular shafts to match my irons though.
post #72 of 81

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Nearest I can tell, most standard wedge flexes are a Dynamic Gold S200. My irons have S300 shafts in them, but I'm debating whether I'd be better off with an X100 to keep the ball flight down. Thoughts?
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