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So, as long as the strokes gained in the "Approach" category put you in a position for either a GIR or an up and down by 4 strokes gained per round it will move you from a 90 player to an 80 player?

 

a) remember, it's just an average of 80-golfers and 90-golfers and where they lose/gain shots relative to the other group

b) yes… but you have to do the other things too, or else you'll only gain 4 shots.


Thanks for the clarification.

 

Yes, my putting and chipping need a lot more practice (at least 35%).

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Sometimes I make a shot-by-shot record of a round I just played. I dug into those sheets and found four complete rounds and a nine-holer from about ten years ago that averaged 90 (93, 87, 88, 91, 46). These are the average numbers of long shots, short shots and putts in those rounds (there were also four penalty strokes).

 

Long - 34.7; Short - 21.8; Putts - 32.7

 

Then I found notes on 45 holes where I averaged 79 (80, 76, 41), from seven years later.

 

Long - 36.0; Short - 12.0; Putts - 30.8

 

This is a small sample, and you could put +/- a stroke or two behind each one.

 

The biggest change by far is the number of short shots, dropping by almost ten strokes.  The reason why is the improvement in my swing, which led to more greens hit, and, therefore, no short shots on those holes. I hit about the same number of long shots, but they were better shots.

 

There was a contribution due to short game improvement in that I would not take more than one short shot to get the ball on the green so often. But most of that ten-shot difference is swing improvement.

 

Heck, a few weeks a go, I played nine holes and on the last four, hit every fairway and every green and got four pars. Who needs a short game when you hit it that straight? (And yes, I know you don’t always hit it that straight. Just sayin’.)

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Given the data we've found and the recommendations we are making in Lowest Score Wins, Dave and I have decided to rename this thread and thus to alter the recommended practice ratios to 65/20/15.

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Given the data we've found and the recommendations we are making in Lowest Score Wins, Dave and I have decided to rename this thread and thus to alter the recommended practice ratios to 65/20/15.
I like that. What's good chipping worth if you can't sink the subsequent short putt?

Or does this have more to do with the fact that we need to be better putters due to all the GIR we're hitting by aiming for the center of the green? a2_wink.gif
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Or does this have more to do with the fact that we need to be better putters due to all the GIR we're hitting by aiming for the center of the green? a2_wink.gif

 

To be honest, I under-valued putting slightly because I'm a pretty good putter. I can go a month without hitting a putt, literally, and kick someone's butt in a putting contest right away.

 

Though the putting motion is still so much simpler than even the short game, it requires a bit more accuracy and consistency than the short game, which bumps its difficulty up just a little.

 

So, it's a combination of the two (which are in themselves pretty similar, I guess). I can't say more without giving away parts of the book, so I'll leave it at that.

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To be honest, I under-valued putting slightly because I'm a pretty good putter. I can go a month without hitting a putt, literally, and kick someone's butt in a putting contest right away.

 

Though the putting motion is still so much simpler than even the short game, it requires a bit more accuracy and consistency than the short game, which bumps its difficulty up just a little.

 

So, it's a combination of the two (which are in themselves pretty similar, I guess). I can't say more without giving away parts of the book, so I'll leave it at that.

 

You kicked our asses up in Erie last month :beer:

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You kicked our asses up in Erie last month :beer:

 

Easy pickin's. :whistle: 

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To be honest, I under-valued putting slightly because I'm a pretty good putter. I can go a month without hitting a putt, literally, and kick someone's butt in a putting contest right away.

Though the putting motion is still so much simpler than even the short game, it requires a bit more accuracy and consistency than the short game, which bumps its difficulty up just a little.

So, it's a combination of the two (which are in themselves pretty similar, I guess). I can't say more without giving away parts of the book, so I'll leave it at that.

I got two apps, one called "Putt Reader" and "Aimpoint" for my cell phone. The free Putt Reader application helped me get 3 twenty foot putts in a row. I'm looking at the Aimpoint app next.

Problem solved. I just have to pretend to "drop" my phone 3 times per hole to putt better.

No need for me to practice putting. a1_smile.gif









Seriously, I do need to learn to putt. I think it costs me almost 10 strokes per round.
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I got two apps, one called "Putt Reader" and "Aimpoint" for my cell phone. The free Putt Reader application helped me get 3 twenty foot putts in a row. I'm looking at the Aimpoint app next.


The AimPoint app won't do you any good until you take the class. Since you're scientifically minded, you could probably do the full MidPoint, but you may still not want to.

 

Anyway, let's keep this mostly on topic. :)

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Given the data we've found and the recommendations we are making in Lowest Score Wins, Dave and I have decided to rename this thread and thus to alter the recommended practice ratios to 65/20/15.

And I am assuming you have edited all your posts too!  I can't remember what it was, 65/25/10?

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And I am assuming you have edited all your posts too!  I can't remember what it was, 65/25/10?

 

Just the first one. And I put in an "edited" note at the bottom.

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