Originally Posted by newtogolf
That might be your position but looking at the posts from others, like Sean above, in this thread and others, I'd say some people try to get through a round as fast as they can.
Originally Posted by Zeph
These threads are adressing slow play
, not encouraging people to rush the round. Your experience on the course is not what people are talking about in all these threads. It's about rounds of 5+ hours, people being as far from ready golf as possible, taking a minute to hit each shot, reading every putt from all sides and 3-putting.
The guy you played with does not
represent the people in here that discuss slow play. He's the other extreme end, which might be just as bad, or even worse. It's got nothing to do with the slow play problems though.
Unfortunately, some players think that the answer to slow play is speed golf. Neither one is a desirable form of play.
Originally Posted by beisenhauer
Pace of play isn't (or at least shouldn't be) about how long it takes to finish a round. That is an effect of pace of play. Pace of play is about being ready to hit when it's your turn, knowing your relief options so you can proceed without delay, hitting a provisional ball if your first may be lost so as to prevent having to return to the tee, perhaps not taking the full five minutes to which the rules otherwise entitle you to search for a lost ball, yielding to faster groups if your skill level demands a little more time to play the course, etc.
The best post in the entire thread.
Originally Posted by BWChuck
Originally Posted by BuckeyeNut
I don't sukk at golf, so it's no fun waiting on slo-mo-fo hackers who can't hit the ball in the air.
And it probably wasn't fun for any skilled player to wait on you when you first started and sucked.
Newer players are slower for two reasons. They take way more strokes, and they just don't have the actual feel of how long they are taking. Both things improve with the frequency of play. But there are always new people coming into the game, so its always going to be somewhat of an issue.
I've seen this too often, the player who thinks that his rights trump the newer player just because he's been at it long enough to be fairly proficient. Must have been wonderful to be a scratch golfer in one's first few rounds.
Originally Posted by michaeljames92
I think your mate is missing the whole point about slow play. Really only applies when there is someone directly behind you.
No, it doesn't. Your responsibility is to keep pace with the group in front of you. If you do that you should never have to look back for anyone behind you. If you know that you are off pace, then you should be trying to catch up, not just staying ahead of the group behind you.
Pace is the policy set by the course. For most courses that is quite a bit slower that what is actually required by players who understand ready golf, but it is what they have found to be reasonable on a busy day. I don't care what it was "expected" to be 30 years ago, or what it is at your home course. This is today, and I don't play your course. Most courses have their pace of play posted somewhere, or have it printed on the scorecard. If that policy isn't to your liking, then that is your problem, not the course's, nor is it the problem of the group ahead of you if they are on pace. You have a right to complain if the group in front of you is off pace and there is a gap ahead of them. If they are keeping up, and the group in front of them is keeping up, etcetera, but the course is still off pace, then you just need to learn to deal with adversity. Also in this case, I don't care if you are a single, you have no right to play through one group after another on a busy course. Deal with it, or find some friends, or join up with strangers, or go home and play another day (with no guarantees that it will be any different).
I'm a fast player, and I dislike slow play as much as anyone, but I've also learned to live with the reality that not everyone plays like I do. As long as the course is playing near the pace set by the course policy, then I don't worry about, and I certainly don't push against those in front of me. That is simply rude. My signature sums up my feelings on pace of play.