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post #235 of 247
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Originally Posted by newtogolf View Post

Fight last night was pretty crazy, The Korean Zombie dislocated his shoulder throwing a punch at Jose Aldo and tried to pop it back in while still fighting.  Once Aldo figured out what happened he went in for the kill and the fight was stopped.  Dislocating your shoulder is no joke, can't imagine not dropping in pain, no less standing and fighting for two more minutes with it popped out.   

That was a bit of a disappointment. I'd been looking forward to that fight for about a week and was bummed it got stopped because of that really strange event. I agree though that it was very impressive that Zombie didn't put his hand up and ask the ref to stop the fight when it happened. The problem with a dislocated shoulder is, once it happens, you're more prone to it happening again. We had a recruit in my platoon at Parris Island who dislocated his shoulder multiple times before then finally sent him home with a "Thanks, but no thanks." 

post #236 of 247
The way Aldo looked last night, with his broken foot, he's lucky Pettis got hurt.
post #237 of 247
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Originally Posted by newtogolf View Post

Fight last night was pretty crazy, The Korean Zombie dislocated his shoulder throwing a punch at Jose Aldo and tried to pop it back in while still fighting.  Once Aldo figured out what happened he went in for the kill and the fight was stopped.  Dislocating your shoulder is no joke, can't imagine not dropping in pain, no less standing and fighting for two more minutes with it popped out.   

 

The Korean Zombie is tough man.  That was his biggest asset against Aldo because Aldo is better all around.  Don't short change Aldo either.  He broke his foot in the first round and still won against arguably one of the "toughest" fighters in the division.

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That was a bit of a disappointment. I'd been looking forward to that fight for about a week and was bummed it got stopped because of that really strange event. I agree though that it was very impressive that Zombie didn't put his hand up and ask the ref to stop the fight when it happened. The problem with a dislocated shoulder is, once it happens, you're more prone to it happening again. We had a recruit in my platoon at Parris Island who dislocated his shoulder multiple times before then finally sent him home with a "Thanks, but no thanks." 

Aldo was winning the fight anyway though, right?  It sucks that it happened when he was turning up the pressure, but I still don't think it would have mattered.  Aldo cruises when he is ahead and it makes it look like he is tired or something.

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The way Aldo looked last night, with his broken foot, he's lucky Pettis got hurt.

 

Yeah, he would have had a harder time beating Pettis...with a broken foot.  You can't compare the matchups though.  Pettis is tailor made for Aldo's style.  That's the kind of guys Aldo wants to fight.  Someone that will stand and bang.  The only reason he started wrestling and using BJJ was because his foot got broken in the first.  I like Pettis, but I don't think he could beat Aldo.  I don't think Pettis beats Henderson either. The good news is that Aldo will probably move up to 155 soon and we will get to see the fights anyway.

post #238 of 247
That's what I saying,what if he had to have a kick boxing match with Pettis being injured?
post #239 of 247
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Originally Posted by pholmes View Post

That's what I saying,what if he had to have a kick boxing match with Pettis being injured?

 

Yeah, I know. I was just talking.  I think he would gotten Pettis down as well...eventually.  Aldo showed some good wrestling considering he is a standup guy.  Pettis is good, no doubt.  I like watching him and I was really excited when the two were supposed to fight.  I honestly hope Pettis beats Henderson again, but I'm not sure he will be able to.  I think Henderson will really utilize the take down this time

post #240 of 247
I think I finally identified Aldo's relative weakness, while he's good in every area, like you said, something about his transitions from striking to grappling are missing. They seem to be not as seamless as the other top guys. What do you think.
post #241 of 247

Shogun vs. Sonnen next weekend. I'm a big fan of both guys but hope Shogun gets the W because let's be honest....Sonnen doesn't need another title shot anytime soon. Also Irishmen Conor McGregor has another fight! BIG FAN

post #242 of 247
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Originally Posted by pholmes View Post

I think I finally identified Aldo's relative weakness, while he's good in every area, like you said, something about his transitions from striking to grappling are missing. They seem to be not as seamless as the other top guys. What do you think.

Well, it's hard to say at this point. He hasn't really used it much in the past and even though he did use it in this fight, he had a broken foot that he said he could barely walk on.  So that would have had a big effect on any explosiveness or transitions.  I don't know...I think he showed enough that he doesn't look one dimensional though. 

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Shogun vs. Sonnen next weekend. I'm a big fan of both guys but hope Shogun gets the W because let's be honest....Sonnen doesn't need another title shot anytime soon. Also Irishmen Conor McGregor has another fight! BIG FAN

 

 

Shogun is one of my favorite fighters from back in the day. He is a true warrior.  I think he can beat Sonnen unless he allows Sonnen to take him down and grind on him.  Shogun lacks the conditioning it takes to fight Sonnen like that for 3 rounds.

 

McGregor!!   That guy is a BEAST and I LOVE to watch him strike! 

post #243 of 247
Good call on the foot, it skewed things. You're right, he is good every where, and crazy explosive. What I mean is maybe he could use that awesome striking to set up take downs, like gsp, and they will come easier and he won't have to wear himself out. About the transitions, they are pretty subtle, like, remember how Fedor would throw strikes, seamlessly grab a clinch into a takedown and start throwing hard shots. Seemingly all in one motion. Gsp also goes from striking to grappling in, essentially one motion. That's the last area Aldo has room to really improve on IMO. I think it will keep him fresher at the end of fights if he can blend certain areas of his game up with the other amazing things he does to gain positions.
post #244 of 247

Sonnen has to win this one, so I expect him to take Shogun down and ground n pound him. 

post #245 of 247
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Originally Posted by pholmes View Post

Good call on the foot, it skewed things. You're right, he is good every where, and crazy explosive. What I mean is maybe he could use that awesome striking to set up take downs, like gsp, and they will come easier and he won't have to wear himself out. About the transitions, they are pretty subtle, like, remember how Fedor would throw strikes, seamlessly grab a clinch into a takedown and start throwing hard shots. Seemingly all in one motion. Gsp also goes from striking to grappling in, essentially one motion. That's the last area Aldo has room to really improve on IMO. I think it will keep him fresher at the end of fights if he can blend certain areas of his game up with the other amazing things he does to gain positions.

 

I agree.  That would be one of the last areas for improvement.  And that's also probably the hardest area to improve.  GSP has done PHENOMENAL at this aspect for not being a wrestler.

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Originally Posted by newtogolf View Post

Sonnen has to win this one, so I expect him to take Shogun down and ground n pound him. 

 

I don't think he has to win it....especially since it's his first fight on a new contract.  He has a new 5 fight deal and I believe his plans are to fight at 185. So the fight with Shogun won't hurt him if he loses. I think the last thing Sonnen has to worry about now is winning.  He's going to sell fights regardless and with everything he has done for the UFC (stepping up on last minute PPV saving fights), Sonnen will work with them as long as he wants whether fighting or behind the mic.  That's my opinion anyway

post #246 of 247

Anthony Pettis is a STUD. Bendo didn't have anything for him. 

 

post #247 of 247
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Originally Posted by Crim View Post

Anthony Pettis is a STUD. Bendo didn't have anything for him. 

 

 

 

Agreed.  Henderson just isn't on the same level with striking.  I love that Pettis won. Being beaten so decisively, Henderson will have to work his way back up now.  Although it wasn't in the UFC, Pettis beat him twice.  I want to see Pettis and Aldo personally...they are two of my favorite strikers

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