Gives a whole new meaning to the title "key grip."
I think they are GREAT! They are laid out very well. They are very informative. The keys are given to you in the order that makes sense and they tell you how to practice the keys and explain the wrong way and why it's wrong. I think they are well worth the money. These dvds are about as simplified as it gets and they make it look SOOOO easy! I had quite a few eye opening moments while watching them
I agree. Disk 2 is the shortest I think but probably has the best overall summary of how to practice the 5SK correctly from a chip all the way to a full swing. It's short enough to watch every week just to give you a refresher if you need it.
Nicely done! The explanations of all the steps and ball flight laws are very detailed and informative.
Is there a thread here about this 'Wall drill'? If so, could you point me to it please?
I got my DVDs in today, and eagerly watched through them all. For reference, I'm a horrible golfer
Disc 1 - Introduction, is a good overview of what the 5 simple keys are, with a fairly detailed explanation of what each key means, and some basic feels and demonstrations of each. As the keys progress, the explanations get more complex, but that's expected -- How could you otherwise explain sweet spot path or clubface control without explaining swing path, face angle, and all of that fun stuff. The good thing is that the explanations are kept at a fairly high level, and don't get bogged down in technicalities like Mike & Andy do on the S&T DVDs. The interactions between Chuck, Dave, and Bob are natural, not forced, and very easy to follow along with. If you aren't a regular reader of this site & already familiar with the swing geometry, this is a fantastic introduction to how and why things happen the way they do in a golf swing.
Disc 2 - Swings. This is where things really start to get interesting for me. This is broken into 3 sections, Chipping, Pitching, and Full swing. Chuck & Dave walk Bob through a series of small lessons demonstrating how to properly hit each type of shot. This DVD reminds me of The Impact Zone, except in video form. The principal of the flat left wrist is heavily worked on here.
In the first section (chipping), Chuck grabs a few 2x4s, and uses those as training aids. To me, this is a fantastic drill, as I can see the benefits of laying them out the way they do, to control left wrist and face angle. However, this is where things start to break down a little for me as a horrible golfer.
In the drill, Chuck mentions placing one of the 2x4s 6 inches behind the ball. Well me being who I am, I go in my garage, grab a 2x4 and a tape measure, place that sucker exactly 6 inches behind the ball, and proceed to fail miserably at the chipping drill. I found it completely impossible to avoid hitting the wood on the backswing, even if I kept my hands still and just broke my wrists back like a pitch instead of a chip. The only way I could even get close was to straighten my legs, lift my shoulders, bend my right arm up and break my wrists, all at once... Not something that you'd ever want to do in a backswing. The problem is that as a horrible golfer, I don't have the knowledge to know how far back the 2x4 should be placed, so I am counting on the DVD to tell me. After experimentation, I found that about 10 inches of distance was what was needed to have a reasonable chipping stroke.
They also go a bit into educated hands here, starting the ball in different directions via clubface control. This was nice to see as it's not something that I've really ever seen mentioned in other golf DVDs.
The pitching drill was unsurprising for the most part, pretty much what I expected after watching the chipping portion. The section on followthrough was good, that was something I hadn't been doing properly and it was a good explanation on how to achieve that post-impact look of extension.
The full swing was even less surprising than the pitching, once you get to this part it's obvious how things are going to go.
Overall good stuff on this one, but I wish it was remotely as easy to do as they make it look
Disc 3 - Speed and Setup Behold, a wild and mysterious James appears! The first segment shows James hitting a driver, demonstrating how to sequence the body to generate more clubhead speed by leveraging the body properly.
Later, the dvd starts going into educated hands, and what that means. Then a segment on the grip, with a emphasis on the pressure point that's on the trail hand index finger (don't remember what that's called). Finally a segment on general posture, with notes about head, back, and shoulder positions.
Disc 4 - Drills Another aptly-titled DVD, this is all about drills. There are several for each key, some of which have been seen on here before a few times (the wall drill, for example). All look to be good ones, I especially liked the bunker drills for forward shaft lean, I'll have to try those next time I'm out somewhere that has practice bunkers.
Disc 5 - Lessons I'll be honest, I didn't pay as close attention to this one as the others. It shows several students, each with some swing faults, and Chuck & Dave set them on the path to glory & low scores. It's a good quiz to see if you can find out the problems in the swing before they get into fixing things.
Overall thoughts Overall, this is a good set of DVDs. The production value is pretty good, not as good as the Tom Watson or Phil Mickelson DVDs, but better than the S&T 2.0 ones. There's some audio leveling issues, Chuck's microphone was much louder than anyone else's, so I had to keep adjusting the tv volume.
The content that was there is solid, but as a horrible golfer I wish there was more detail in some areas. For example, they talk a lot about sliding the hips, and then bringing the sweet spot to the ball -- ok, how do I do that? Pull my hands? Rotate shoulders? Turn hips? I can come up with lots of ways to do that, and 99% of them are probably wrong and will instantly add 20 strokes to your game just by thinking about them. I wish they would have went into more detail about all of the movements necessary so that I wouldn't need to go try and figure it out myself.
In the end, I am happy that I bought these, and I think that golfers of nearly any skill level would benefit from them.