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post #199 of 269
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post

The last of the four videos @mvmac
 and I filmed in San Diego. Enjoy!



I expect 20% of the ad revenues for using my swing as the left video.
post #200 of 269
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1.  Get into your setup stance with a 6-iron.

2. Keeping your body angle and alignment, place the 6-iron across your shoulders with your palms on the club facing forward.

3. Rotate your shoulders and hips as you would in your normal back swing and hold for 15 seconds.  I focus on where the club is pointing and try to stretch it past a 90 degree turn.

 

I like it, we did something similar with the stick in the belt drill. Good for golfers to learn that the top of the backswing, held for 15 seconds with the right amount of bending and stretching, isn't a "comfortable" position. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

The last of the four videos @mvmac and I filmed in San Diego. Enjoy!

 

:beer:

post #201 of 269
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I expect 20% of the ad revenues for using my swing as the left video.

I'll split it with you. I swore he was using my swing as a model on the left.a2_wink.gif
post #202 of 269
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Originally Posted by boogielicious View Post

 

 

1.  Get into your setup stance with a 6-iron.

2. Keeping your body angle and alignment, place the 6-iron across your shoulders with your palms on the club facing forward.

3. Rotate your shoulders and hips as you would in your normal back swing and hold for 15 seconds.  I focus on where the club is pointing and try to stretch it past a 90 degree turn.

 

I like it, we did something similar with the stick in the belt drill. Good for golfers to learn that the top of the backswing, held for 15 seconds with the right amount of bending and stretching, isn't a "comfortable" position. 

 

 

 

 

I don't think anyone would ever accuse me of being a golfer but it certainly wasn't comfortable.  Haha

post #203 of 269
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Originally Posted by mvmac View Post
 

 

I like it, we did something similar with the stick in the belt drill. Good for golfers to learn that the top of the backswing, held for 15 seconds with the right amount of bending and stretching, isn't a "comfortable" position. 

 

 

 

:beer:

Thank our New Brunswick member @Foursum Golf for this one.  I also do a similar drill with a club and do A1 - finish and hold each position for 10-15 seconds.  It is more to build strength, but I think it is good rehearsal for each position.

post #204 of 269
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I'll split it with you. I swore he was using my swing as a model on the left.a2_wink.gif

We are going to have to split that 3 ways. I thought I was watching myself there.
post #205 of 269
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Originally Posted by mvmac View Post
 

 

There is no "rule" for how much for each club. For a mid iron, we generally see good players turned about 80-90 degrees by A3 (left arm parallel to the ground on the backswing).  Shorter clubs might be a little bit less, longer clubs will be more.

 

Mini tour player on the left, PGA Tour player on the right. With your swing I don't think it's a flexibility or ability thing, it's more of a "doing" thing. Meaning you just have to put in the reps and do it, feel like you are turned 90 degrees by A3

 


Are both of these positions "good" wasn't sure if the implication was that the one on the right was better or depending on flexibility both are ok?

post #206 of 269
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Are both of these positions "good" wasn't sure if the implication was that the one on the right was better or depending on flexibility both are ok?

 

They're both examples of good.

 

The left one here is an example of bad:

 

post #207 of 269
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Are both of these positions "good" wasn't sure if the implication was that the one on the right was better or depending on flexibility both are ok?

 

Yes both examples of good turning rates. Bad example would be a player turned much less by A3 (left arm parallel to the ground on the backswing).

 

EDIT: @iacas beat me to it ;-)

post #208 of 269

Im working on Key 1 and Im wondering am I supposed to maintain some flex in my back knee(or leg) or is it supposed to be fairly straight at the top of my backswing? Watching the video above it looks like Erik's back knee looks pretty straight at the top of his backswing.

post #209 of 269
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Im working on Key 1 and Im wondering am I supposed to maintain some flex in my back knee(or leg) or is it supposed to be fairly straight at the top of my backswing? Watching the video above it looks like Erik's back knee looks pretty straight at the top of his backswing.

 

Pants mask it a bit. You can see there's still some flex here:

 

post #210 of 269

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

 

Pants mask it a bit. You can see there's still some flex here:

 

 

Does it feel like  the weight on the inside of your back foot and on the ball of your front foot?  When Im looking in the mirror trying to keep my head steady thats where I feel pressure.

post #211 of 269
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Originally Posted by Jakester23 View Post
 

Does it feel like  the weight on the inside of your back foot and on the ball of your front foot?  When Im looking in the mirror trying to keep my head steady thats where I feel pressure.

 

If that's where you feel it and Key #1 is good, then that's where you feel it. But I wouldn't necessarily say that's your "swing thought" to achieve Key #1 properly. 

 

I would make sure that the knee isn't "kicked in" at address, would inhibit your ability to release flex in the rear knee, reason why having the right foot turned out is important. So if that's where you feel it, that's fine, but I wouldn't overdo it.

I normally don't think about it but if I was to take a backswing and pause (very scientific ;-)) I feel like it's pretty balanced from side to side with the weight slightly favoring the heel. Some golfers can tend to roll the weight onto the outside of their foot because the hips slide back and don't rotate. So for that golfer, the hips turning, right knee releasing some flex, it may feel like the pressure is more towards the instep of the foot.

 

Here's Dave and Grant at A4

 

 

post #212 of 269
Thank you Mike. I'm going to try to get to the range today. Im really trying to get a feel in mind for key 1 and thought I stumbled upon one.
post #213 of 269
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Originally Posted by Jakester23 View Post

Thank you Mike. I'm going to try to get to the range today. Im really trying to get a feel in mind for key 1 and thought I stumbled upon one.

 

Yeah sorry didn't mean to "kill" your swing thought ;-)  Going to post something I think you can feel on your swing thread now. 

post #214 of 269
Ok.. Watched this video 5 times .. And honestly this 5 sk system can apply to any and all golf methods .. If you follow a method correctly. , work at it .. And grind it out . Than you will hit all the guidelines and prerequisites in the video . I agree with it , not sure if it is the best video I ever watched ..but that is just my opinion . I'm close to hitting all of the requirements , but again I'm using different drills and a totally different system . So my question ? Does this pertain to every method ,? If yes, than any method could really put their name on this video .. Just my takes .. But a nice watch during these cold winter nights we had. ..

Laterz
post #215 of 269
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Originally Posted by c peterich View Post

Ok.. Watched this video 5 times .. And honestly this 5 sk system can apply to any and all golf methods .. If you follow a method correctly. , work at it .. And grind it out . Than you will hit all the guidelines and prerequisites in the video . I agree with it , not sure if it is the best video I ever watched ..but that is just my opinion . I'm close to hitting all of the requirements , but again I'm using different drills and a totally different system . So my question ? Does this pertain to every method ,? If yes, than any method could really put their name on this video .. Just my takes .. But a nice watch during these cold winter nights we had. ..

Laterz

 

5SK is a system of prioritization utilizing the commonalities of the game's best players. To answer your question, 5SK isn't specific to any particular swing or method. You could be a Leadbetter guy, One Plane guy and still work on or teach the Keys.

 

You couldn't just put any method in the DVD because methods differ from each other, the commonalities of great players don't. Few example, here are a few differences with the address position for different methods: Gary Edwin likes to see a reverse K, Jim Hardy likes players bent over more for a one plane swing, Mac O'Grady wants a strong grip and head tilted 5 degrees to the right. 

 

So the point is, you can have all these different "styles" but don't waste your time or lose sight of the things that really matter. Rather than fit you into a swing, 5SK teaches you HOW to perform each Key. Reason we have threads like this.

post #216 of 269
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Originally Posted by c peterich View Post

Ok.. Watched this video 5 times .. And honestly this 5 sk system can apply to any and all golf methods .. If you follow a method correctly. , work at it .. And grind it out . Than you will hit all the guidelines and prerequisites in the video . I agree with it , not sure if it is the best video I ever watched ..but that is just my opinion . I'm close to hitting all of the requirements , but again I'm using different drills and a totally different system . So my question ? Does this pertain to every method ,? If yes, than any method could really put their name on this video .. Just my takes .. But a nice watch during these cold winter nights we had. ..

Laterz

I've always got a lot out of the 5SK DVDs, but used to think other DVDs such as the S&T videos were a bit better because of the level of detail they get into as well as the high production value, While I'm still an admire Bennett and Plummer and have gotten a lot out of their videos, I've come to realize that the beauty of the 5SK DVDs is precisely because they do not get bogged down in details. As a high handicap player, I've found that I continue to go back to the 5SK DVDs and have a better understanding on of the importance of what they're trying to get across. Just my 2 cents. 

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