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post #163 of 288
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Originally Posted by dak4n6 View Post

Ughhh. He was in Eli's league last night, or vice versa. Slippery as an eel he is. The Gmen once again played down to their opposition. Three good drives in the 1st half that stall around the 20. And as before the talking heads were saying that Bob is 'changing the face of quarterbacking'. Really?? Randall Cuningham, Vince Young, McNabb, Dog Boy, Tebow, etc, etc. I still maintain that if you are running options and bootlegs and such nonsense for your QB, you are not going to succeed in the long run.



You cant win with all the stupid penalties. This team seems to only step it up against the big boys.

I wont complain about winning the division, but a 1st round bye wouldnt hurt.
post #164 of 288
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Originally Posted by dak4n6 View Post

Ughhh. He was in Eli's league last night, or vice versa. Slippery as an eel he is. The Gmen once again played down to their opposition. Three good drives in the 1st half that stall around the 20. And as before the talking heads were saying that Bob is 'changing the face of quarterbacking'. Really?? Randall Cuningham, Vince Young, McNabb, Dog Boy, Tebow, etc, etc. I still maintain that if you are running options and bootlegs and such nonsense for your QB, you are not going to succeed in the long run.

Joe Webb!

(Not saying anything other than I really really want to see him get playing time.)
post #165 of 288
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Originally Posted by meenman View Post

You cant win with all the stupid penalties. This team seems to only step it up against the big boys.

 

The Steelers found a way to beat the Giants despite the horrible penalty calls that went the way of the Giants. :P

post #166 of 288
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Originally Posted by RPMPIRE View Post

I'll give the Rams a little credit for having a good defense. But give it a few weeks...they'll be watching the Niners in the playoffs through their tubes at home!

Very true!

post #167 of 288
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post

The Steelers found a way to beat the Giants despite the horrible penalty calls that went the way of the Giants. :P

that goes along with the part of the Giants playing down to the competition ;)
post #168 of 288
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Originally Posted by dak4n6 View Post

 

Ughhh. He was in Eli's league last night, or vice versa. Slippery as an eel he is. The Gmen once again played down to their opposition. Three good drives in the 1st half that stall around the 20. And as before the talking heads were saying that Bob is 'changing the face of quarterbacking'. Really?? Randall Cuningham, Vince Young, McNabb, Dog Boy, Tebow, etc, etc. I still maintain that if you are running options and bootlegs and such nonsense for your QB, you are not going to succeed in the long run.

I think the only reason the Skins run so much "college type" stuff is becasue RG3 is still so young. It's downright scary to think how good he's gonna be going forward. He's not your average running QB, he's accurate already and will only get better. He's Steve Young with world class speed. (It's been a few years but he has clocked times that would've qualified him for this year's Olympic 'A' standard and place him 5th in the trials.

 

RG3 has the potential to be the QB that we have never seen before.

post #169 of 288
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Originally Posted by dak4n6 View Post

Ughhh. He was in Eli's league last night, or vice versa. Slippery as an eel he is. The Gmen once again played down to their opposition. Three good drives in the 1st half that stall around the 20. And as before the talking heads were saying that Bob is 'changing the face of quarterbacking'. Really?? Randall Cuningham, Vince Young, McNabb, Dog Boy, Tebow, etc, etc. I still maintain that if you are running options and bootlegs and such nonsense for your QB, you are not going to succeed in the long run.

Each time a QB of this style comes out, we get excited and think he's going to be great.  And it's not just players too, also schemes (read: wildcat).  I tend to agree with your last statement because it seems to me that when given a little time, NFL defenses always figure out these gimmicks.  That said ...

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Originally Posted by RonTheSavage View Post

I think the only reason the Skins run so much "college type" stuff is becasue RG3 is still so young. It's downright scary to think how good he's gonna be going forward. He's not your average running QB, he's accurate already and will only get better. He's Steve Young with world class speed. (It's been a few years but he has clocked times that would've qualified him for this year's Olympic 'A' standard and place him 5th in the trials.

 

RG3 has the potential to be the QB that we have never seen before.

I will agree that RGIII seems different because he can throw.  Maybe you are right and they are only featuring the zone reads for now until he grows into the position.  I hope so ... cuz he does seem like he could be awfully good.  Then again, so did Vick, Newton, Young .... and .... Philip Rivers d1_bigcry.gif

post #170 of 288

Most rookie QB's come into a system that existed before they got there and are expected to adapt to it.  The Redskins designed an offense to fit the talents of RG3.  The Bronco's knew Tebow couldn't throw so they used a lot of option runs.  RG3 isn't running option runs, the entire offense is designed to confuse defensive players to give the offense that extra second they need. 

 

Last night they showed a series of plays on how this offense makes it very difficult for the defensive end because he has to look for them to run a counter with Morris, RG3 could keep it and throw a quick pass or RG3 can run or roll out and then pass.  Defensive coordinators will try to adjust by using different formations, but it won't be easy.  The way to stop it is to have fast linebackers who can react to the play quickly. 

 

The 49ers have borrowed some of the Redskins plays the last few weeks but their QB isn't close to being RG3. 

post #171 of 288
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Originally Posted by newtogolf View Post

Most rookie QB's come into a system that existed before they got there and are expected to adapt to it.  The Redskins designed an offense to fit the talents of RG3.  The Bronco's knew Tebow couldn't throw so they used a lot of option runs.  RG3 isn't running option runs, the entire offense is designed to confuse defensive players to give the offense that extra second they need. 

 

Last night they showed a series of plays on how this offense makes it very difficult for the defensive end because he has to look for them to run a counter with Morris, RG3 could keep it and throw a quick pass or RG3 can run or roll out and then pass.  Defensive coordinators will try to adjust by using different formations, but it won't be easy.  The way to stop it is to have fast linebackers who can react to the play quickly. 

 

The 49ers have borrowed some of the Redskins plays the last few weeks but their QB isn't close to being RG3. 

Let's not get carried away.  They scored 17 points.  And 7 of them were on a fluke fumble-TD.

post #172 of 288
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Originally Posted by turtleback View Post

Let's not get carried away.  They scored 17 points.  And 7 of them were on a fluke fumble-TD.

What are you talking about?  That was a designed option play that only somebody like RGIII could pull off. c2_beer.gif

 

(I did like the comment from one of the announcers that said 'even RGIII's fumbles look good.')

post #173 of 288
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Originally Posted by RonTheSavage View Post

I think the only reason the Skins run so much "college type" stuff is becasue RG3 is still so young. It's downright scary to think how good he's gonna be going forward. He's not your average running QB, he's accurate already and will only get better. He's Steve Young with world class speed. (It's been a few years but he has clocked times that would've qualified him for this year's Olympic 'A' standard and place him 5th in the trials.

 

RG3 has the potential to be the QB that we have never seen before.

He without question the best athlete on the field any time he steps out there but he will have a day when isn't anymore. They've done a good job making an offense that works right now but he will have to develop his ability to stay in the pocket and make good decisions. The Redskins are lucky because of him being such an amazing athlete they probably have a few more years to get him groomed unlike other QBs like him. I'd also be concerned about injury one torn ACL or MCL and his speed may not be there anymore but all in all it looks like they have a QB for years.

post #174 of 288
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Originally Posted by jamo View Post


Joe Webb!
(Not saying anything other than I really really want to see him get playing time.)

 

Isn't he the backup at Minn? I remember they put him in for a few games last season and he looked really good..

post #175 of 288
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Originally Posted by dak4n6 View Post

Isn't he the backup at Minn? I remember they put him in for a few games last season and he looked really good..

Yep.

His YouTube highlights are amazing.
post #176 of 288
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Originally Posted by clubchamp View Post

He without question the best athlete on the field any time he steps out there but he will have a day when isn't anymore. They've done a good job making an offense that works right now but he will have to develop his ability to stay in the pocket and make good decisions. The Redskins are lucky because of him being such an amazing athlete they probably have a few more years to get him groomed unlike other QBs like him. I'd also be concerned about injury one torn ACL or MCL and his speed may not be there anymore but all in all it looks like they have a QB for years.

Thats very true, and that's what sets RG3 apart from guys like Vick and Cam. RG3 is pretty darn accurate already (for a rookie). He has the ability to be a pocket passer that can hurt you if he has to run. Andrew Luck is the same way, he may be a little slower but I've seen him line up at WR and make a one handed catch against USC. Both these guys a freakish athletes.

post #177 of 288

RGIII is overrated. When's the last truly capable scrambling type QB to actually have an impressive career?

post #178 of 288
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post

RGIII is overrated. When's the last truly capable scrambling type QB to actually have an impressive career?

Ooh, I got this one ...........  JaMarcus Russell!

 

Seriously though, you may be right, but IT SEEMS like he also has the pocket passer skills that Steve Young and Warren Moon had, but that Vick, Young, and Perhaps Newton seem to lack.

post #179 of 288
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post

RGIII is overrated. When's the last truly capable scrambling type QB to actually have an impressive career?

I'd say Steve Young was pretty damn impressive.

post #180 of 288
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

Ooh, I got this one ...........  JaMarcus Russell!

 

Seriously though, you may be right, but IT SEEMS like he also has the pocket passer skills that Steve Young and Warren Moon had, but that Vick, Young, and Perhaps Newton seem to lack.

Very well said Golfingdad, thank you sir. a3_biggrin.gif

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