Originally Posted by Johnhw2
I dont disagree with your view point at all.
How is it Westwood, Kaymer and Hansen who came in not on form, managed to win on Sunday when the pressure was on?
Originally Posted by Monte the Bear
OK, here's a thought - could be crap.
There is so much prevalence put on the Majors - and the players that don't win them. The pressure is on these guys more so as they get older to get one over the line. So when they don't do it, it's like...what's left? The Ryder Cup. In Europe, you really get defined (I think) more by your Ryder Cup play than in the US. Hence Montgomery is feted, Westwood, Donald, Poulter, Garcia, Rose...all fantastic players who have yet to get it over the line. And may not. But they are foreigners on a foreign tour, and I think they feel that. And I think they feel this. The majority of European team players have not won a major, the majority of the American team have. There's a point to prove, psychologically.
Of course, the golf I saw over the first two days was unbelievable from the US team, totally out-played the Europeans apart from a few players. But can you keep up this fabulous level for three days? Could be Europeans got their poor rounds out of the way and then re-grouped. It was still real close - 6 games went to 18th remember, and a few more got to the 17th. This was no walkover, regardless of the score.
Dustin Johnson is over here playing in the Dunhill this week - no idea how he's doing it. He must be knackered.
Couple of points - Hanson didn't win, Kaymer struggled over the line against the worst performing player on the US team, Westwood hadn't been playing
great but he is the No.4 player in the world
There was arguably more core strength in the European team - 4 of the current Top 5 in the world, 4 players who have been ranked No. 1, Poulter who is probably the best matchplay player out there (not just from his Ryder Cup record). McIlroy, Donald, Poulter & Kaymer have all won or been runner up in the Accenture the last 3 years, Colesaerts, McDowell, Poulter and Donald have either won or been runner up in the Volvo in the last 2 years. None of the US team have been to a final in the last 3 years. Woods won it 3 times last in 2008 and Stricker won it in 2001 (for completedness Westwood and Garica both got to the final)
This particular bunch of Europeans just seems to be better matchplay players - the point about US picking match play players is well made on that evidence
On the issue of whether it means more in Europe the simple answer is yes - while obviously we have had a great run winning 7 of the last 9, which will inevitaly give it more exposure, I'm sure if you asked the majority of Eurpean golf fans (excl Irish) who they preferred between Harrington, Garica, Westwood, Poulter - Harrington would probably come bottom of that list but he is obviously the one with the greatest achievements
Since teh mid 80s we have produced a stream of great Ryder Cup players (of the current crop Donald and Poulters records rank with anyones) - th elast US player I can remember who seemd to have "European"attitude was maye Lanny Wadkins?