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post #1585 of 1852

You can use these cheater putters 3 more years whats the fuss?  thats 3 years, I bet anyone can save up $150 over 3 years for a new putter, otherwise golf should not be on the top of their hobbies list as it's not a cheap sport...

post #1586 of 1852

I most sincerely hope that the PGA will not decide to undertake the most ill-advised path of setting up their own set of 'rules' to play under.  If they do, they will be, by definition, no longer playing Golf, and my reason to turn on the TV to watch will float gently out the window.  If you are a member of the PGA, I would urge you to contact your organization and urge them to continue playing by the only set of rules Golf has ever had.  If you're not, you could mention it to your local club pro, who probably is a member of that organization.  I plan to.

post #1587 of 1852
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Originally Posted by 2ironfrenzy View Post

I can't wait for these ugly things to be illegal! I hated them from the day they came out, my only complaint is they are giving too long of a grace period!

 

 

Golf was worried about what your personal taste approved of.

Do you think sun visors are ugly and therefore should be banned?

Brandt Snedeker is losing sleep waiting hear if you approve.

post #1588 of 1852
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Originally Posted by phan52 View Post

 

Their is a distinct difference. The putter is not anchored. 

 

Both Arnold and Billy C putted at times with their hands wresting against their legs. Under 14-1b, this in fact, is considered anchored and would not be allowed. 

post #1589 of 1852

Take a close look at the butt of of Casper's putter. It's resting against the underside of his prodigious paunch and never moves. When he makes his wrist stroke the putter pivots around the anchored butt of the grip-- a shorter radius version of what we see players doing today .  I believe Johnny Miller was the first to spot this trick and Casper admitted that that was what he was doing.

 

I point this out because during the Byron Nelson Classic coverage Nick Faldo claimed that no one who anchored his putter ever turned out to be a great putter. Obviously he wasn't aware of Casper's technique.

post #1590 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Zeph View Post

I don't understand that one. He's able to swing a driver and any other club in the bag at 70-100+ mph, but can't make a small putting motion? Sounds like bullshit.
As someone with a bad back I will agree with Clark. While I have no problem hitting a bucket of balls at the when I go to the putting green my back is killing me within ten min of my first putt... its a completely different posture from a full swing.
In an attempt to fix the problem I've straightened my back and keep my arms straighter in my putting stance.
While this helps with my back pain it certainly doesn't fix it.
All that being said I don't use an anchored putter and never will but I think that its a stupid argument to say that it helps you make putts, i've made the argument before that if we are are going to outlaw something that "helps you make putts" than should we not also outlaw drivers that help you hit fairways? Or cavity back irons that help that ball get up in the air and give a tighter shot dispersion? Or mallet putters that give you more solid contact anywhere on the face? And don't get me started on the advancements in ball technology...
The list can go on and on.
Its a stupid rule change and it shouldn't have even been addressed.
post #1591 of 1852
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Originally Posted by mp33 man View Post

As someone with a bad back I will agree with Clark. While I have no problem hitting a bucket of balls at the when I go to the putting green my back is killing me within ten min of my first putt... its a completely different posture from a full swing.

It's not a back problem that Clark cites. It's an anatomical defect in his arms or wrists or something.
post #1592 of 1852

I am 5'10" and use a 35.5" putter because I was uncomfortable with a shorter putter.  My posture is upright and places very little strain on my back while putting.

post #1593 of 1852
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Originally Posted by mp33 man View Post

As someone with a bad back I will agree with Clark. While I have no problem hitting a bucket of balls at the when I go to the putting green my back is killing me within ten min of my first putt... its a completely different posture from a full swing....

 

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Originally Posted by boogielicious View Post

I am 5'10" and use a 35.5" putter because I was uncomfortable with a shorter putter.  My posture is upright and places very little strain on my back while putting.

I'm in the same boat with both of the above.  I'm 6'6" and while using a standard (34"-35") putter doesn't bother me during a round, it kills my back when practicing.  I bought a belly putter and tried it, but didn't see any real advantage to the anchored stroke - but I did cut it down to 39" and I now use it as a conventional putter, which allows me a much more upright (and comfortable) stance.

 

The anchored stroke seemed to be a slight help on very short putts, but I felt like I lost a lot of touch and distance control on longer putts.

post #1594 of 1852
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Originally Posted by szaino View Post

 

Both Arnold and Billy C putted at times with their hands wresting against their legs. Under 14-1b, this in fact, is considered anchored and would not be allowed. 

 

How does the putter move if your hands are resting against your legs?

 

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Originally Posted by Valvey View Post

Take a close look at the butt of of Casper's putter. It's resting against the underside of his prodigious paunch and never moves. 

 

Great alliteration.  

post #1595 of 1852
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

How does the putter move if your hands are resting against your legs?

Easy, you just have to shuffle your feet towards the hole really quickly as if you were doing the MC Hammer dance.

post #1596 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

Easy, you just have to shuffle your feet towards the hole really quickly as if you were doing the MC Hammer dance.
I laughed out loud
post #1597 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

Easy, you just have to shuffle your feet towards the hole really quickly as if you were doing the MC Hammer dance.

My god, you are old! It's Gangnam Style 'pops!

LOL Just kidding c2_beer.gif

post #1598 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Rulesman View Post

A more comprehensive explanation

 

http://www.randa.org/en/RandA/~/media/RandA/Related%20Documents/2013/AnchoringExplanation.ashx

 

This is really, REALLY well written. Admittedly I'm biased since I've always been pro-ban, but this writeup refutes (successfully, IMO) every anti-ban argument that has been presented in this thread or anywhere else - in many cases using the same arguments almost word-for-word that the pro-ban people in this thread have been making. And many additional supporting reasons are given that I'd not thought of.

 

It took me two days to get enough spare time to read through the entire thing, but if any of the anti-ban people have the patience to do the same, I think there's a very good chance their opinion could be swayed.

post #1599 of 1852
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Originally Posted by sacm3bill View Post

It took me two days to get enough spare time to read through the entire thing, but if any of the anti-ban people have the patience to do the same, I think there's a very good chance their opinion could be swayed.

 

I doubt they will read it.  It was (co?) written by the ruthless R&A bullies. 

 

/sarcasm on the last bit.

post #1600 of 1852

I believe that its being blown out of proportion and that they need to really re-consider this. First i would like to state, i DO NOT use a belly putter or long putter. Since high school, i have been putting with my same Scotty for years and consider it my "bill baroo". I have tried different styles and lengths and being the height that im at (6'5") and found out that i like my Scotty and just made it a bit longer than the norm (37"). I do not think anchoring is cheating by all means, i feel whatever the player feels comfortable with they should use it. Golf is not the game of perfect and that is why i love it!! You can have the worst god damn looking swing, but if it works for you play it! I feel the same with putting. Ive tried the long putter and the belly and to me they didnt work. But for some of the guys on tour or amateur, it works wonders. To me they are making people change their game?? Thats complete load of crap! Just because they feel its "cheating" because your "anchoring", comon folks get with it. My thing is this, if its the best thing on the pro circuit and they "make everything" then why dont every pro convert to it then??? Its not like the groove change way back when, this is just a set up that certain players like and i feel for em. Thats like saying that i cant use my 47 inch driver anymore because its "too long" and i hit it "too far" and its "cheating". Each person has their own way of putting and they should keep it that way!! As i stated previously, if was such a big game changer and made the game "easier" then everyone one of the pros would go to it and would be shooting lights out! 

post #1601 of 1852
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

 

How does the putter move if your hands are resting against your legs?

 

 

Great alliteration.  


In the old days, they used to putt with a lot of wrist action, especially on the short putts, not like today where the pendulum motion is used.

 

Here is a perfect example of Bobby Jones putting in this fashion. They used to anchor their forearms against their legs and use all wrist and body turn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnYXZ79nKKY

 

Resting par of their hand or even part of the forearm against the leg while making the stroke would now constitute anchoring.


Edited by szaino - 5/22/13 at 3:44pm
post #1602 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Spyder View Post

My god, you are old! It's Gangnam Style 'pops!

LOL Just kidding c2_beer.gif

I think this might be the first time I've been called "pops."  LOL.  But, yes, you are right ... that would have been a better song to use!

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