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30+ Handicap with graphite shafts and I slice everytime!

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hello there, I am new to the boards.

 

I have done some research on here to see if anyone else had a similar issue but I figured I would bring this up fresh and see what everyone else thought.

 

I'll explain a bit about me to set up my question. I have played golf a little maybe a couple times a year up until this year where I have started to becme serious and try to play more like 18 holes average once a week. 2 times a week. I'm 25 years old and 6 foot 180 lbs. I am pretty strong for my size and I beleive have a pretty fast swing speed. (Only speculative as I haven't been measured but will be doing that soon but in comparison to other I can tell it's fast)

 

I have an old set of Affinity irons that are not anything special at all. And they have graphite shafts. Of a flex that seems very... flexable. Haha.

 

My main issue now is I think (I am thinking here) that with most of my clubs (3 irons through 6-8 iron) I slice like crazy!

 

Even Driver too sometimes now as well. (Which is a new Burner 2.0 driver with regular flex)

 

My idea is that because my swing speed is generally pretty fast on most swings except lower clubs is that the face of the club is not coming square because the flex/torque of the shaft is leaving the club open. I generally have a solid grip on the club, I have a good stance, and my tempo I feel is sound.

 

(Note I am an amateur but throughout this year I have practiced many muliple times per week at ranges and on the course)

 

My friend is letting me borrow a set of clubs today with steel shafts. I am going to the range to check it out and see if I am more accurate and if the slice goes away.

 

Would you guys blame the shaft, knowing that my human mechanics are generally pretty good with a relatively fast swing??

 

Thanks for reading the long read and all of your comments!!

post #2 of 16
Shafts can attribute, but so can your swing. Post up a video...
post #3 of 16

Its not the shafts.  Shafts that are too weak wont cause a slice.  If anything, they would cause you to hit hooks or pull hooks.  Most likely its something to do with your stance, grip or swing.

post #4 of 16
Not the shafts...
post #5 of 16

Whenever I hit clubs with whippy shafts I hit straight pushes and push fades. Then come the topsies and low pull hooks.

 

Get some proper clubs already!!

post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by Datsyuk View Post

Whenever I hit clubs with whippy shafts I hit straight pushes and push fades. Then come the topsies and low pull hooks.

 

Get some proper clubs already!!


Why would you hit the ball right with shafts that are too weak?  If anything, with the clubhead lagging behind you, it would cause pulls and pull hooks.  That just doesnt make sense.b3_huh.gif

post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by GaijinGolfer View Post


Why would you hit the ball right with shafts that are too weak?  If anything, with the clubhead lagging behind you, it would cause pulls and pull hooks.  That just doesnt make sense.b3_huh.gif

I think you're right on this one. If I use a weaker shaft all my shots go to the right (I'm a lefty). With a senior flex, I hit so high and to the right 45 degrees, that I didn't know where the ball went. Pull hook for sure on a good strike.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by GaijinGolfer View Post


Why would you hit the ball right with shafts that are too weak?  If anything, with the clubhead lagging behind you, it would cause pulls and pull hooks.  That just doesnt make sense.b3_huh.gif

How about you go try it instead of just thinking about it. More doing and less yapping.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Datsyuk View Post

How about you go try it instead of just thinking about it. More doing and less yapping.

Sorry, I quoted the wrong person, I agree with you on this one. With a whippie shaft, club head does not lag behind you, it whips ahead at the bottom of the swing. That's the effect anyway.
post #10 of 16

Proper length and lie for your body and intended swing are most import factors in learning to hit the ball straight. If you are getting to impact on the proper plane with club head on the correct lie, shaft flex will have bigger impact (pun intended) on ball height than it does on ball direction.

 

Get a static fitting for lie and length. Shaft flex matters too, but proper lie and length are super important.

post #11 of 16
Btw, clubs with graphite shafts are about an inch longer then steel.
post #12 of 16

Tips for slicers (I've been there)

 

1. Try a stronger grip (More knuckles visible on the left hand)

 

2. Try a "shallower" swing plane. Not flat, but shallower.

 

3. Try to force an in-to-out swing pane. Place two tees on the ground at a 45 degree angle facing away from you. Put the ball in between these tees and try to hit the ball. This will force an in-to-out swing plane, helping rid you of that slice.

 

4. Try adding some tilt on your shots. When you set up, lean a little bit away from your target. This is a big one that helped me.

 

Hope this helped!

post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thank you for all of your replies. I do believe most are correct with thw hippy shafts should be causing hook instead of draw. I tried some new clubs with steel shafts...WHILE Also using a stronger grip.

 

I really researched the grip because this was the other thing I suspected.

 

Legit I usually go out and shoot about a 105-110 on the course because of my very unpredictable trajectory.

 

I went and played twice this week after hitting the range and changing my grip and also changing the clubs. (To some older Callway x-12's) Something more reliable than my off brand poopers/

 

My scores were 93   and a 94.

 

Amazing!!!      So it seems it was my grip. I think the shafts were not my thing anyway I like being able to really feel the hit with the steel shafts too.

 

I am so much happier now that I changed the grip. Seems I needed a very strong grip. Things are improving!!

post #14 of 16
The shafts are not the slicing problem, it is your swing.

But with that said someone of your age should not be using fishing poles for shafts.
post #15 of 16

The ball doesn't know how whippy the shaft was. If the clubface meets the ball in such a way that hook spin or slice spin is imparted then a hook or a slice is the result. I have a quick transition and a compact swing. A whippy shaft results in pushes and push fades. Other players may hit that club and find it results in hooks. That's why someone should take another player's club or shaft recommendations with a grain of salt.

post #16 of 16

I think that you can't really blame the shafts in this case for your slice. I agree with everyone else in the fact that if you have an ideal swing then your club head should whip through with some drawing or just pulling action. HOWEVER!!! If you feel you have above average swing speed(go find out and don't just think you do --GolfSmith, GolfGalaxy, Local Proshop) then looking into getting irons with steel shafts is not a bad idea or looking into getting clubs with stiff steel shafts.

 

Either way if your getting serious about playing golf then go out and buy yourself some nice used clubs. Truthfully, it sounds like anything is an upgrade from what you have so spend a couple hundred on something you want and go out and play. 

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