Originally Posted by mdl
Yeah I assumed we were talking about hard but not literally impossible shots. 40 yards, concrete hard-pan, short sided over a bunker is a literally impossible shot with any wedge real players actually game, unless you hit the flag or bounce it off the back lip of the bunker just right or something.
But I agree the mid length hard pan shot can be tricky. If it's far enough to be able to attack it (even if not a full swing), then I don't find that too hard, and if it's like just of the fringe distance, no problem. But 30-50 yards off hard pan is really tough for exactly what Beachcomber said, if you hit 1/4" too far behind the ball it'll bounce and you'll blade it.
I vote for thick rough pitches and chips as harder though. Maybe just cause I hit shots off hard pan way more often than I play courses where the penalization is deep rough? At 25 yards buried in some grass I basically never feel like I have any idea how hard I have to swing even just to ensure the ball gets onto the green somewhere. I'm just chopping and hoping.
I'm busting k-troop's chops a little, but saying a middle length hard pan shot is easy I think is unfair. Like highlighted, it is inbetween a pitch and a chip. You can't flip or float load without the risk of the club bouncing up and scalding the ball. You can't flop it for the same reason. So you have to trap it and that is more of a low flying punch - with forward shaft lean. This can emit spin - but you run the risk of:
a.) carrying the ball far enough to even get on the green - hitting short and the ball coming up short of the green/pin
b.) carrying the ball too far - not emitting enough spin and the ball rolling past the pin (aka long ass putt back) or worse having to chip back as the ball ran through the green
It is all about the lie - hardpan... Forces you to hit a low trap... Combined with distance control - how hard you hit the shot to ensure it flies the proper distance, and then has enough room to hit - then check and stop. Not an easy shot as some of the guys on here are saying.
If it is easy... Then I want to see you post the shot/result to Youtube. I'd be happy to film why I believe it is one of the harder shots in golf.