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post #37 of 50
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Originally Posted by solarbear View Post

Evolvr is definitely good value. I have no idea what to expect from tehm though.

I'm with Evolvr on the monthly plan and I think it's great. I've never take lessons prior to this though so I really have nothing to compare it too.

LOTS of Evolvr students on here though and to my knowledge every single one of them is improving. I'd say try them out for two months and if you don't like it cancel, you're only out $80 which is a drop in the bucket as far as golf lessons go. The lessons are short but highly effective (probably because they're short) and the nice thing about online lessons is once you download it you can watch it as often as you want. I usually watch them before I practice to make sure I stay on point and don't get distracted by swing issues other than the ONE that is my priority piece. Proper prioritization is a big part of why Evolvr works so well.
post #38 of 50

I just signed up for evolvr and got my first evaluation last week from James H.  I felt that James did identify the biggest issue with my swing and showed me what to do to correct it.  Additionally James also explained the cause and effect.  Even though I've only received one lesson feedback, I can tell that I did the right thing by signing up and that my game will improve dramatically over the next few months.

 

I've been a long time lurker of this forum and try to read up on what I can and THINK that I have a somewhat decent understanding of the golf swing.  The thing is, there is a difference between knowing the technical aspect of the swing and being able to properly diagnose / assess your own swing.  This is where quality instructions come in.

 

The main point of my post though is to share my main concern with on-line lessons to those who are considering evolvr or another on-line lesson source.  Being about a 20 handicap, I FEEL that my swing varies greatly from good shots to bad shots.  I was concerned that sending in a video of just a swing from down the line and one from face on would not be a representative sample of my swings.  I ended up emailing Eric about it to which his response was "the swings those folks make are 99.4% the same. The only thing that changes is a teeny bit of timing stuff that has them hitting the ball fat or thin, or pulling AND slicing it, etc.".  Eric response made sense and alleviated my concern.  I then signed up for evolvr. 

 

The last point I want to make for potential on-line students is that there are lots of free software that you can use to easily trim out your swing video to select the one you want to upload – assuming you did a long recording of several swings.  Most of those same free software will also allow you to easily combine two videos (one from face on and one from down the line) as one video to potentially make it easier for you to upload / archive.

 

Even though I just started with evolvr and knowing what I know now along with my first lesson feedback, I really wished I had signed up much sooner.  I would have enjoyed the game even more.  Now I just need to go out there and practice.  J

 

Good luck to all.

post #39 of 50
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Originally Posted by Mello View Post

I just signed up for evolvr and got my first evaluation last week from James H.  I felt that James did identify the biggest issue with my swing and showed me what to do to correct it.  Additionally James also explained the cause and effect.  Even though I've only received one lesson feedback, I can tell that I did the right thing by signing up and that my game will improve dramatically over the next few months.

 

I've been a long time lurker of this forum and try to read up on what I can and THINK that I have a somewhat decent understanding of the golf swing.  The thing is, there is a difference between knowing the technical aspect of the swing and being able to properly diagnose / assess your own swing.  This is where quality instructions come in.

 

The main point of my post though is to share my main concern with on-line lessons to those who are considering evolvr or another on-line lesson source.  Being about a 20 handicap, I FEEL that my swing varies greatly from good shots to bad shots.  I was concerned that sending in a video of just a swing from down the line and one from face on would not be a representative sample of my swings.  I ended up emailing Eric about it to which his response was "the swings those folks make are 99.4% the same. The only thing that changes is a teeny bit of timing stuff that has them hitting the ball fat or thin, or pulling AND slicing it, etc.".  Eric response made sense and alleviated my concern.  I then signed up for evolvr. 

 

The last point I want to make for potential on-line students is that there are lots of free software that you can use to easily trim out your swing video to select the one you want to upload – assuming you did a long recording of several swings.  Most of those same free software will also allow you to easily combine two videos (one from face on and one from down the line) as one video to potentially make it easier for you to upload / archive.

 

Even though I just started with evolvr and knowing what I know now along with my first lesson feedback, I really wished I had signed up much sooner.  I would have enjoyed the game even more.  Now I just need to go out there and practice.  J

 

Good luck to all.

Awesome that you joined up!  You will enjoy it and it will help you greatly.

post #40 of 50

Here's my question, do you have to go out and buy a camera or are the videos from a good smart phone good enough?

post #41 of 50
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Originally Posted by Jeremie Boop View Post

Here's my question, do you have to go out and buy a camera or are the videos from a good smart phone good enough?

I am on evolvr and am currently using my iphone.  It isn't the best out there, but its good enough.

post #42 of 50

I think my hc will be dropping pretty fast since I identified the major flaw in my grip. At least the recent rounds have seen some big drops already. So once I see a stabilization in my hc again I'll probably look at doing this.

post #43 of 50

I am new to this forum but after reading this thread I decided to signe up to Evolvr and submit my swing. Two days later I am still waiting for my analysis trying to be patient :D

 

I have been playing for about 15 months and seen my handicap drop from 35 to 19.7 in the last couple of months after reading Swing Like a Pro and Ben Hogan’s 5 principle... I then took a couple of lessons that contradicted most things though in those two books and most of what I read on this forum. Those "pro" tips really messed up my swing and had put some doubts into my head. 

 

So I am really hoping that I will be able to get some consistent information about the swing from Evolvr because I really think the quality of information from some teachers out there is severely lacking.

 

Anyway, going into a long 5-6 month offseason here in Iceland so I think I will use Evolvr (if I like it) to really build a solid swing before the season starts again.

 

Tryggvi

post #44 of 50
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Originally Posted by tryggvirafn View Post

I am new to this forum but after reading this thread I decided to signe up to Evolvr and submit my swing. Two days later I am still waiting for my analysis trying to be patient :D

 

I have been playing for about 15 months and seen my handicap drop from 35 to 19.7 in the last couple of months after reading Swing Like a Pro and Ben Hogan’s 5 principle... I then took a couple of lessons that contradicted most things though in those two books and most of what I read on this forum. Those "pro" tips really messed up my swing and had put some doubts into my head. 

 

So I am really hoping that I will be able to get some consistent information about the swing from Evolvr because I really think the quality of information from some teachers out there is severely lacking.

 

Anyway, going into a long 5-6 month offseason here in Iceland so I think I will use Evolvr (if I like it) to really build a solid swing before the season starts again.

 

Tryggvi

You won't be disappointed. Just follow their lesson plans and focus on the priority they give you. The lessons are typically only around 5 minutes but they give your priority piece instead of the informational overload that some instructors give you. In my case, even though I have a ways to go before I can say I'm really "nailing" the positions they're trying to get me into I am playing the best golf of my life right now. Last three rounds were all ∼10 strokes better than I used to be.

post #45 of 50
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Originally Posted by tryggvirafn View Post

I am new to this forum but after reading this thread I decided to signe up to Evolvr and submit my swing. Two days later I am still waiting for my analysis trying to be patient :D

 

I have been playing for about 15 months and seen my handicap drop from 35 to 19.7 in the last couple of months after reading Swing Like a Pro and Ben Hogan’s 5 principle... I then took a couple of lessons that contradicted most things though in those two books and most of what I read on this forum. Those "pro" tips really messed up my swing and had put some doubts into my head. 

 

So I am really hoping that I will be able to get some consistent information about the swing from Evolvr because I really think the quality of information from some teachers out there is severely lacking.

 

Anyway, going into a long 5-6 month offseason here in Iceland so I think I will use Evolvr (if I like it) to really build a solid swing before the season starts again.

 

Tryggvi

I agree with Ernest. It really helped me out.  Be patient with yourself as well.  Gangi þér vel

post #46 of 50
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Originally Posted by JetFan1983 View Post
 

 

Sorry for the double post here. New members do get free assistance though, there is no question.

 

I remember having a conversation with Erik about a year ago about evolvr. I said evolvr looks great, but isn't nearly as good as an in-person lesson with a good instructor. He agreed. I'm actually starting to think Erik was wrong. Evolvr can be better because the instruction is so good. They really do find your biggest problem and educate you on it and how to fix it. Sometimes a good instructor can overlook the primary problem (no one's perfect, but this has happened to me before and online lessons from Mike and Erik have come to my rescue).

 

Yes, they aren't standing next to you watching you hit balls, nor are they there for you when you hit a snag during a range session, but knowing exactly what the problem is -- for me, anyway -- is extremely important. It alleviates so many of my frustrations and concerns when I have a clear picture in my head on where the issue lies. I'm not jumping off in another direction in an attempt to fix something that isn't there. I'm sticking with something despite whatever struggles I am encountering, knowing that despite bad contact -- for whatever the reason -- I am on the right track. 

Man, this is good. My experience has been very similar. One thing I did not realize when I signed up was how hard it was going to be to make the swing changes. It is a ton of work, but really glad I'm doing it. 

post #47 of 50
Disclaimer: only one lesson deep ...

Been taking lessons from a Pro ... After one lesson on Evolvr I am disappointed I spent so much time/money with the pro ... I did improve under the pro ... But I knew I had a swing flaw ... I felt I was a chicken winger ... First lesson, The Evolvr guys called it out ... In slow motion I could see what I was doing ... In a slow motion drill video I could see step-by-step and side-by-side to my swing what I needed to do to fix it ... here is the best part ... I can watch it over and over again ... Each time I watch it I pickup more of what Brian was saying ...

I have been practicing my ass off, and will get check-up video in this weekend.
post #48 of 50

Everytime I try and implement something from Michel Breed, Martin Hall or Peter Kostis, it ends up hurting my progress and my instructor has to re-fix what I picked up from those guys. With that said if I was to do online lessons or recommend someone Id still say to go through The Golf Academy (lovely app I might add)

post #49 of 50
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Originally Posted by Mayday View Post

Everytime I try and implement something from Michel Breed, Martin Hall or Peter Kostis, it ends up hurting my progress and my instructor has to re-fix what I picked up from those guys. With that said if I was to do online lessons or recommend someone Id still say to go through The Golf Academy (lovely app I might add)

I agree with the Michel Breed and others ... Went down that road of despair ... However, the issue for me was self diagnoses my issue and prescribing a "fix" ... Not a good solution ... I am not a golf pro ... How can I self diagnoses?

Evolvr is a pro (real person) that evaluates your swing via a video, then in great detail explains the fault via a video, suggest a drill also via video ... In my case a video of the correct swing side-by-side to my faulted swing

IMHO self prescribing a fix is not the best plan ... Just like when I have a medical issue, I let a doctor prescribe the fix

At least research Evolvr before you discount the option. a1_smile.gif
post #50 of 50
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Originally Posted by isukgolf View Post


I agree with the Michel Breed and others ... Went down that road of despair ... However, the issue for me was self diagnoses my issue and prescribing a "fix" ... Not a good solution ... I am not a golf pro ... How can I self diagnoses?

Evolvr is a pro (real person) that evaluates your swing via a video, then in great detail explains the fault via a video, suggest a drill also via video ... In my case a video of the correct swing side-by-side to my faulted swing

IMHO self prescribing a fix is not the best plan ... Just like when I have a medical issue, I let a doctor prescribe the fix

At least research Evolvr before you discount the option. a1_smile.gif

 

 

Not discounting Evolvr at all Im sure they are excellent at what they do and has helped many people and will continue too. Guess I worded my previous post wrong. The Golf Academy is more of a preference thing kinda like you sticking to the soda you grew up drinking or always ordering the same thing at a restaurant (if that makes any sense). They are the first people I started seriosuly paying attention too when I started to take things more seriously (Im 23 now guess that has alot to do with it lol). I did things that were natural to me in my swing and it sure didnt look like "golf swing" but I was a consistent ball striker. Ive been working with an instructor for a few months and for the most part "we" are changing everything that was "natural" to me to be more "mechanically sound". Im short like Rory so when Peter Kostis ( and others) say this is how a short guy gets his power Im all ears then I take that perfected tip to my lesson and my instructor says im "falling back into old habits." The only person whose tips actually "passed" were a few from Paul Azinger. Now I just emulate the people?thing he shows me on the side by side. The golf swing is definitely not something that can be self diagnosed (for most people) but when you know/feel what your doing wrong then maybe. Lots of times (when we are looking at my swing side by side) I tell my instructor what Im doing wrong before he can actually tell me (he is a PGA pro). I will definitely give Evolvr a try when Im out of town or probably when school starts, they clearly have a good reputation here. Thank you for the recommendation much appreciated! :beer:

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