Originally Posted by tuffluck
Originally Posted by Fourputt
But most of them aren't playing from the tips. Aside from a couple of obvious idiots, I've never seen a golfer who can't break 100 play from 7000 yards. No one is ever going to convince me that such an endeavor is anything but masochistic. As others have said, you can do what you like, but I don't think you are doing yourself any favor by putting unnecessary stress on your apparently below average game.
Most of the guys I've known who can't break 100 can't even do it from the 6500 yard middle tees on my home course either.
so now i'm a below average golfer...hmm, exactly who are you selecting to create your average from? there is thread right below this that insists most average golfers shoot well over 100.
besides, if i am a below average golfer, why would it matter where i play from? i should be below average from any distance. i don't find it any more stressful to play from the tips than the whites, like absolutely zero percent more stressful. that's something you just made up about me in your head right now.
If you carry a 20 handicap, then yes, you are some 5 strokes worse than the average handicap player. Since most average players don't play from the back tees, I find it odd that you feel that you have to. It's clearly an ego thing, whether you admit it or not. You say that you typically make a couple of snowmen in each round. The player who carries an average handicap doesn't. I may have a hole score that bad four or five times in an entire season. I can usually limit any damage from a bad shot to no worse than a triple, and usually double on my bad holes. Yet I'm right in that "average" handicap golfer range.
Originally Posted by tuffluck
Originally Posted by Dave2512
The problem is too many base it on their best drives not their average. For the high capper the inconsistency that comes with that means lots of errant hits with all clubs. I know I'm not consistent enough where all my approach shots don't vary more than 2 clubs. The chance I'll duff one from the tee and attempt to recover from that with a 4h is about the same that I'll crush it and be a wedge out. I tracked stats the better part of the season. Still hitting just 46% FIR.
maybe something else to consider...
if you look at a scorecard on your local course, how many of the holes are actually so much longer from the tips that they significantly effect your playing style on them? for me that would be the difference between a 450 yard par 4 and a 480 yard par 4. that may put me on a hybrid hitting to the green instead of a 5i/6i.
MOST par 4s on the courses i play at don't have this kind of jump at this yardage on more than 2-3 holes. most of them are the difference between 380 and 410. and i think those kinds of holes play exactly the same from either tip for me.
par 3s over 200y you'll see on the tips too, and those are the only other holes that are significantly harder in terms of difficulty from the forward tees.
The par 4 holes on my home course from the back tees are 371, 450, 432, 372 (forced layup unless you can carry the ball 320 yards), 379, 401, 450, 407, 418, 436. The shortest par 5 is 520. Unless you can hit the ball in the fairway consistently, you will be contending with trees, water, and/or native rough up to 4 feet tall. Length alone just isn't enough to be playing the tips. Accuracy and the ability to make intelligent decisions is more important.
I like the middle tees because my ego doesn't require me to use driver on every hole. The longest par 4 from the middle tees is 432 yards and 5 are at or over 400, so adding in the par 5's there is still plenty of opportunity to use the driver, but I like thinking my way through a hole instead of just automatically pulling driver every time. It's a rare round when I don't use every club in my bag at some point in the round.
I've played a lot of golf with long hitters who think like you do, and I usually get sick and tired of stomping the weeds looking for their drives. It may be fun for you, but it's rarely fun for the people you play with.