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Absolutely no evidence whatsoever. But there is really no evidence of anything here. It's a story with extremely little info, and a lot of speculation. That storyline seems most plausible to me ... That's all.Originally Posted by divot dave 
I disagree... what evidence is there to suggest that there was something else going on (loud parties etc.) ? The "spy" in the article referenced is quoted as only mentioning his attire. And if a country club has the balls to interrupt a round for dress code, why wouldn't they have the balls to interrupt the round for disorderly behavior?
Has anyone chiming in here ever golfed with MJ to attest to his conduct on the golf course? If not, seems the whole behavior/cigar smoke thing is without merit. Even in the picture provided he's got a cigar in his mouth but it doesn't appear to be lit.
just sayin
I disagree... what evidence is there to suggest that there was something else going on (loud parties etc.) ? The "spy" in the article referenced is quoted as only mentioning his attire. And if a country club has the balls to interrupt a round for dress code, why wouldn't they have the balls to interrupt the round for disorderly behavior?
Has anyone chiming in here ever golfed with MJ to attest to his conduct on the golf course? If not, seems the whole behavior/cigar smoke thing is without merit. Even in the picture provided he's got a cigar in his mouth but it doesn't appear to be lit.
just sayin
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Also perfectly reasonable possibility.Originally Posted by Harmonious
The only sources in this whole incident are an unnamed spy and Jordan's unnamed representative. No one else has commented. Not the country club. Not Jordan's host. Not anyone else who observed the incident. Yet people are so quick to criticize this club (all private clubs, really) or Jordan or Jordan's host, without knowing any of the facts.
Here's my take. It could be completely wrong, but it makes sense, knowing what little I do about fancy country clubs:
1) Host and Jordan arrive or meet at course. Host checks them in at the pro shop.
2) Perhaps Jordan doesn't even go into the pro shop. If he does, person in pro shop is star-struck, is reluctant to mention dress code to a celebrity or to his host.
3) As an exclusive club, there is no starter needed. Perhaps no club employee sees them prior to teeing off #1.
4) Everything is fine until the 12th hole, when members of another group notice Jordan's attire. They call the pro shop to complain.
5) Pro shop now has to do something, so sends someone out to #12 to say that there was a complaint about proper attire, and suggest that Jordan may want to change into more appropriate clothing.
6) Host and/or Jordan tells person they will finish the round. They do so and leave the club.
7) Word spreads around the club about the incident. Maybe from the complainants, maybe from the guy who had to go out to #12, maybe from the bag boy who loaded Jordan's clubs into his car.
8) Somehow a newspaper gets hold of this (non)story.
9) Jordan's rep tries to spin it so that the club is the bad guy, not Jordan.
Like everyone else, I have no idea what really happened. But my scenario makes as much sense as the gossip column in the Times.
The only sources in this whole incident are an unnamed spy and Jordan's unnamed representative. No one else has commented. Not the country club. Not Jordan's host. Not anyone else who observed the incident. Yet people are so quick to criticize this club (all private clubs, really) or Jordan or Jordan's host, without knowing any of the facts.
Here's my take. It could be completely wrong, but it makes sense, knowing what little I do about fancy country clubs:
1) Host and Jordan arrive or meet at course. Host checks them in at the pro shop.
2) Perhaps Jordan doesn't even go into the pro shop. If he does, person in pro shop is star-struck, is reluctant to mention dress code to a celebrity or to his host.
3) As an exclusive club, there is no starter needed. Perhaps no club employee sees them prior to teeing off #1.
4) Everything is fine until the 12th hole, when members of another group notice Jordan's attire. They call the pro shop to complain.
5) Pro shop now has to do something, so sends someone out to #12 to say that there was a complaint about proper attire, and suggest that Jordan may want to change into more appropriate clothing.
6) Host and/or Jordan tells person they will finish the round. They do so and leave the club.
7) Word spreads around the club about the incident. Maybe from the complainants, maybe from the guy who had to go out to #12, maybe from the bag boy who loaded Jordan's clubs into his car.
8) Somehow a newspaper gets hold of this (non)story.
9) Jordan's rep tries to spin it so that the club is the bad guy, not Jordan.
Like everyone else, I have no idea what really happened. But my scenario makes as much sense as the gossip column in the Times.
More seriously last I heard Royal Troon doesn't allow shorts and there are a couple in Japan and SE asia that I am aware of. I am sure there is one in the US since at least one club will want to be know for being the most anal.
