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post #19 of 26
12/18/08 at 9:42pm

Re: What you are stating makes sense. The bigger shoulder turn works better with woo

Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
Well I would have to disagree with both of you. I don't know what you mean by the wrist cock but essentially when you take your backswing the wrist of the bottom hand (right for righties) should be cupped at the top while the left wrist of the left hand should be near flat. Holding the bend in the right wrist as one comes down in the downswing as long as possible creates lag. Most people don't like to call that a cock. They like to call the up and down motion of the wrist as a cock. Well the two wrists work together and the resulting position at the top should be what I describe.

But, this is not the No. 1 generator of power in the swing. What it does is add that extra 10 to 25 yards to your distance that can set you apart from your playing partners. You can have little or no wrist cock or wrist action and still hit the ball over 200 yards proving that the "wrist cock" is by no means the No. 1 generator of power. That would be body core and arm levers. All of it adds up to give you distance.
Theodore P. Jorgensen in his book "The Physics Of Golf" describes how power is generated in the golf swing as follows: "The large muscles of the legs, thighs, and back supply energy to the left arm at least at the start of the downswing. The shoulder muscles start their action gradually at the same time and continue to supply energy to the left arm throughout the rest of the downswing. Later, the large muscles slow up the motion of the body, thereby giving an additional amount of energy to the system. The dynamics of the swing will transfer energy from the left arm into the club".

Tommy Armour always said "You must not rush the start of the downswing for these forces to be applied".
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post #20 of 26
12/19/08 at 1:36pm

Re: What you are stating makes sense. The bigger shoulder turn works better with woo

Originally Posted by lynchjo View Post
Theodore P. Jorgensen in his book "The Physics Of Golf" describes how power is generated in the golf swing as follows: "The large muscles of the legs, thighs, and back supply energy to the left arm at least at the start of the downswing. The shoulder muscles start their action gradually at the same time and continue to supply energy to the left arm throughout the rest of the downswing. Later, the large muscles slow up the motion of the body, thereby giving an additional amount of energy to the system. The dynamics of the swing will transfer energy from the left arm into the club".

Tommy Armour always said "You must not rush the start of the downswing for these forces to be applied".
I would say Amen to the bolded part. It is one of my biggest faults.
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post #21 of 26
1/31/09 at 11:52am

Re: Difference between iron swing and driver swing

Originally Posted by MattljDuke View Post
The driver swing is flatter, but this is only due to the length of the club. Short irons will swing on a steeper plane, woods and driver will be on a shallower plane. This does NOT mean that you swing differently. It's the same basic swing.

This image is helpful:



Note: be the guy on the right, who swings the same with each club, not the guy on the left.

Thanks for image
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post #22 of 26
1/31/09 at 8:04pm

Re: Difference between iron swing and driver swing

Originally Posted by utube View Post
Thanks for image
This may be semantics, but the swing plane is a key element of the swing. If you change the swing plane, you change the swing. Even if all the other elements remain the same, the swing is different. And, incidentally, both golfers in the diagrams are changing swing planes.
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post #23 of 26
2/1/13 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by fairwaysngreens View Post

Should the driver and iron swings be the same, or is the driver swing a bit more flat?

Great Question!  This changed by golf life forever!

 

I learned from tapes and books from Bobby Jones, H. Haney, and others that irons and fairway woods must be struck on a descending blow, BUT the driver should bottom out on a somewhat flatter plane (longest club) with ball across from the front heel, and strike on an upward path (thereby combining a high launch angle with LOW spin).

 

I read it explained it this way.  When you strike down on the ball with the driver you will hit low shots with more spin (thereby decreasing distance).  If you add loft to your driver, you add even more spin.  It explained that "The optimal backspin for Driver is between 2,200-2,800 RPM, launch angle between 11-14 degrees, and Smash Factor 1.3-1.5 (ball speed/club-head speed)."  I found the best way for me to achieve this was indeed with the flatter upward driver strike.

 

Hope this helps! 

Cheers!  C.A.

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post #24 of 26
2/28/13 at 2:29pm

By the way...the swing speed data quoted above was from a book called Precise Golfer by Brian Morris, Sr.

Cheers!  C.A.

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post #25 of 26
3/1/13 at 7:40am

When hitting iron shots, is the ball really compressed into the turf? 

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post #26 of 26
3/1/13 at 7:51am
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Originally Posted by joekelly View Post

When hitting iron shots, is the ball really compressed into the turf? 

 

No. 

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