Holding in the end zone or holding when the ball is in the end zone is a safety too I believe. Either way, it was a smart play.
You're possibly a troll since you only have 3 total posts, but I'll bite. Where did I doubt Joe? He won a Super Bowl. Amazing accomplishment. Deserves it too. But, I said he wasn't "elite." He'll get paid like he's an elite, but he's not elite. That's all. HIs career numbers backup my statement.
And yea, and the Jets are awful, and they could use Joe Flacco's services. But the Ravens weren't/aren't quite an underdog.... entering the game they were a whopping 3.5 points back in the spread. We shocked the world! Seriously, saying Flacco isn't "elite" which is a completely fair statement, does not make the Ravens underdogs.
Doesn't look like anyone wants to engage in this debate here with me though, so I'll give it up.
Umm, I've seen some of your posts on football in here before, Jetfan, and that information (and the fact that your name is Jetfan) is all I need to know to avoid debating football with you. (Hint: I'll lose)
All of your points about Flacco are probably correct. It just seems to me that he get's less credit than a guy who's won a playoff game in every year, and now a Super Bowl, should. Whereas people foam at the mouth to try and call a guy like Tony Romo "elite" even though he's done nothing of importance. (Not saying people call him elite yet, just that I get the impression that they really want to ... as soon as he does anything good) Ironically, I have nothing against Tony Romo, or for that matter, nothing really for Joe Flacco, just an opinion.
Haha, I'm sorry, are you somewhat complimenting me or saying that because I'm a Jets fan I am unwilling to listen to reason?
I think what would prove me wrong on this is if Flacco came out next season and beyond and could carry his team in the face of changing offensive personnel around him from season-to-season like Rodgers and Brady have done.
And we agree on Romo.
But I do admit that it is crazy that Flacco was one Lee Evans drop away from two potential Super Bowls. Still, I think for me you really need the regular season statistics to back the elite title up too. And I understand if people don't agree that you do, based on offensive play-calling outside the QB's control. Given today's rules though, the fact that he's never broken 3900 pass yards or 25+ pass TDs holds him back from that status... for now.