Originally Posted by Golfingdad
1. If ...
then why would it be banned on the PGA tour? Is that guy referring to all anti-doping agencies? When was that?
2. Oh, and if what you guys were saying up above is all correct (not sure who said what ;)) then it's interesting because you guys are saying that it's not detectable by any current testing methods, however, admitting you use it is punishable.
So if you didn't realize something was against the rules AND admitted it (similar to what Vijay did) that is punishable, however, if you know that it's against the rules and use it anyway - "but who cares because they can't detect it, and I'm gonna lie if they ask me about it" - and are deceitful then that's A-OK.
1. The foundation for the banned list comes from the World Anti-Doping Agency and has been modified slightly for the sport of Golf. (http://www.wada-ama.org/)
2. Yes...exactly. If you do it, hide it, lie about it, and don't get caught, you don't get punished. If you admit to doing it, even if you claim you were ignorant, you are guilty because it states explicitly in the Anti-Doping Program Manual (bolded section is also bolded in the manual to emphasize the point)...
"If you are unsure of a product’s ingredients, you should not take that product until you are sure it does not contain any prohibited substance(s). In addition, the manufacturing and labeling of supplements are not subject to strict regulation, which may lead to a supplement containing a substance that is prohibited under the Program, even though that substance is not listed as an ingredient. In years past, positive test results in other sports have been attributed to the use of mislabeled supplements. Since taking a poorly labeled supplement is not a defense to a violation of the Program, you are urged to exercise caution and conduct appropriate research when using these products."
IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE.
In another paragraph, it says it again:
It does not matter whether you unintentionally or unknowingly used a prohibited substance. It is, therefore, very important for players to understand not only what is prohibited, but also how a prohibited substance may get into your body, potentially causing an accidental violation.
The PGA Tour has simplified this even more. They, just like MLB and other sports organizations, have contracted with the National Science Foundation (NSF) to conduct testing and maintain a database of products that conform/don't conform to the anti-doping guidelines. I watched an interview today on the MLB network (I can't find a reference online yet) but one of the MLB players was explaining how simple it was because all you have to do is call a 1-800 number, give them the name of the product, and the NSF will tell you whether the product contains any banned substances.
Sorry, but when the process is that simple to keep in compliance with, there's little excuse for failing to adhere to standards. We're not talking about Vijay accidentally getting some doped milk that had hormones in it. We're talking about him buying $9,000 worth of supplements and him failing to even check with the website that lists the ingredients, or the NSF to ensure the products weren't banned.