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Ok so I have excess $ to spend (for once), and I've never actually purchased a new driver!  Currently I'm rocking the TM R510, so I assume there is plenty of room for improvement...

I've got my personal preferences narrowed down to Titleist or TM. I'd like to pick up either a 910/913 or R11/R1...

I have seen a few 910s out there for $350 but I don't expect the price to drop significantly per the brand standards.  Does anyone think they will lower the price on the R11s with the release of the R1?  Wondering if the step up to 2013 models (R1/913) is significant in most opinions...?

As soon as my club has a demo day I will try before buying of course, but I feel like an R11 new for $200-250 would be a great deal.  Either that or I shell out $400 for a new baby.

Thoughts?

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I think you should go try every driver there is until you narrow it down. Once you start hitting them you will narrow it down fast.

There are really great ones out there that you may not have even concidered until you hit them.

If you are spendng the money make sure you get the best fit for you. You could be very surprized at what you decide on IMO.

Mike M.

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Do you know what your swing speed is?

From the research and demos I've done...

The 913 compared to the 910D isn't much difference in numbers on radar when looking at the clubs with the same shaft.

The R1 compared to the R11s - again, similar numbers - the biggest difference is the additional adjustability options in the R1.

Whatever you do... I'd make sure you go get fitted and look at your ball speed, launch and spin numbers before you buy.  Also, once you have your swing speed numbers, then you'll have a better idea of which shaft to go with.

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Yeah, excellent points on fitting.  I need to get that done properly.  I've seen a similar post just created today on who to go to but didn't see much on the way of solid advice.  I can always go to a golf galaxy/golfsmith but I don't know how reliable they are.  I'll have to follow that thread a little closer.

Shaft is key and I'm totally leaving that out too... thx.

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Swing Speed will determine a lot in terms of what type of head and shaft they will recommend.  Then they will look at your launch and spin numbers.  A good fitter will be able to make recommendations based on numbers.

I'd seek out a fitter who uses Trackman or Flightscope.  Some of the other radars that are out there can have funny numbers.

Also, looking at the 2013 products... Callaway and Ping have some boom sticks you should also look at.  I just got the Razr Fit Xtreme and liking it.

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You're right, I should give that Callaway a kick around too.  Ping . . . . I love my I3's but have never loved the woods.

Trackman or Flightscope : good to know.

Where in Newport Beach is your photo?  Looks like Monarch?  I was in Laguna just last week for work, played Strawberry, Arroyo, Talega and Tajeras.  Couldn't get on at Monarch tho...!

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Originally Posted by Beachcomber

Do you know what your swing speed is?

From the research and demos I've done...

The 913 compared to the 910D isn't much difference in numbers on radar when looking at the clubs with the same shaft.

The R1 compared to the R11s - again, similar numbers - the biggest difference is the additional adjustability options in the R1.

Whatever you do... I'd make sure you go get fitted and look at your ball speed, launch and spin numbers before you buy.  Also, once you have your swing speed numbers, then you'll have a better idea of which shaft to go with.

Talking to a local fitter that uses Trackman, he said that the R1 was getting "way better" numbers than the R11s... IIRC he said something like 4 mph more ball speed on average.

To the OP, check out the review of the R1 on the main site, and as others have said, hit everything you can and get fitted if possible.

Tristan Hilton

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Originally Posted by TourneyPants8

You're right, I should give that Callaway a kick around too.  Ping . . . . I love my I3's but have never loved the woods.

Trackman or Flightscope : good to know.

Where in Newport Beach is your photo?  Looks like Monarch?  I was in Laguna just last week for work, played Strawberry, Arroyo, Talega and Tajeras.  Couldn't get on at Monarch tho...!

Yeah, that was taken on the tee box of #4 at Monarch.  Good times!  Sounds like you played some quality Orange County tracks.  How was Arroyo's greens?  I haven't been out there for awhile, but they had some issues with diseased greens last Summer.  I'm curious how it played.

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Originally Posted by tristanhilton85

Talking to a local fitter that uses Trackman, he said that the R1 was getting "way better" numbers than the R11s... IIRC he said something like 4 mph more ball speed on average.

To the OP, check out the review of the R1 on the main site, and as others have said, hit everything you can and get fitted if possible.

Yes.  In terms of low spin drivers... R1, X-Treme, Answer - those are the top three that I've heard/seen for guys that have high swing speeds.  Not sure how fast the OP's swing speed is.  So the baseline will shift as you get the different clubs into the mix (lighter heads, etc, etc..)

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If you're interested in the R1, or just about any other club out there, go to YouTube and search Mark Crossfield R1 Review, he does a nice review. But he does bring up an interesting point, why do you need all the adjustability if you have gone to the bother of getting fitted properly? Unless of course you just like to tinker with lofts and open and closed faces etc. But check it out, I find all of his reviews and instructions interesting (and it is free).

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I have owned a 910, and demoed a 913. From my perspective the only advantage of the 913 is some of the shafts options are better. Both heads are a bit too spinny for my liking and while a bit straighter I lost a little yardage with the Titleist clubs. I think if you want to go Titleist you are safe with whatever club you can get for a better deal. I wrote the review for the R1 for the SandTrap and I agree with Tristan it is longer than the R11. My good friend owns the R11 and I hit both on the range side by side. I think the R1 has quite a bit more pop and the adjustability feature is really cool. Yes you could custom fit the driver if you liked, but I like to tinker, and this club gives me WAY more options than you had before.

Michael

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  • 1 month later...

Well you narrow down pretty fast. I thought i would never hit a TM driver again ( after the 540 ) but well here i am with the R11

try them and most of all get the right shaft in them.

Dirver: Mizuno JPX 825 9,5 Fujikura Orochi Red Eye Stiff 65 g.
3 wood: Mizuno JPX 825 14 Fujikura Orochi Red Eye Stiff 75 g.
Hybrid: Mizuno JPX 825 18 Fujikura Orochi Red Eye Stiff 85 g. 
Irons: Mizuno MP 59 3 / PW KBS Tour stiff shaft ( Golf Pride Niion )
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After you test out some drivers, take a few of the favorites onto the launch monitor to get some data on launch angle, clubhead speed, etc. Get an idea of what head + shaft combo seems to work best.

After using the data to identify three or four finalists, select the one which you like best, in which you have the most confidence. As the pro at Saturday's golf expo said, golf is a mental game, and you'll never play well with clubs you don't have confidence in.

Focus, connect and follow through!

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+1 on r11s, I just bought a used one for 155 all up (had to get the head and shaft separately), should be a great club for the money.

I think the adjustability is a great feature, you can leave everything neutral on the range when you are perfecting a swing, and then set up to offer some extra forgiveness for your usual miss the day you go to play.

Should help me find more fairways

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I am a first time poster on this site but felt compelled to share my thoughts on the Cobra AMP Cell. First I own a top line simulator and hit about 1000 balls per week. I track all aspects of the golf swing including launch angle, carry distance, total distance, spin and the like. I have been playing the R1 and also have a Nakashima. I tested both the stiff high kick point low launch and the regular mid kick point shafts. For me the lightest shaft which is less than 60 grams. The spin was about the same as the R1 butch the launch was higher and the carry distance was probably 15 yards more. I tested the stiff shaft at 10.5 degree face setting but to get the same launch went down to 8.5 degrees on regular shaft. I love the way it feels to hit the ball and while I ban hit the R1 as high and within 15 yards I total distance I have to work harder to get near the same result. This driver is fun to hit a term I do not use related to drivers. I am 61, a 13 handicap and my club head speed is in 92-93 MPH with this club and 88-90 with the R1. Everything in my bag is Taylor Made and everything is custom fitted at the Kingdom in Carlsbad. I am a TYlor Made
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