My Swing (jordy466)

Hard to tell from this angle but it looks like you are coming over the top badly.  Hard to tell though.  You mentioned you will get some recent video in the other thread.  Make sure you read the link on how to take the video, and try to get a current one.  We will help you figure out that slice. 

I think your right elbow is getting stuck behind you and that might be what is causing this.  We can wait to see the next video to verify though. 

Next time you submit videos take a look at this thread, the camera angles aren't great

http://thesandtrap.com/t/38240/my-swing-video-threads-rules-please-read

Backswing on the left pic

Robert Rock, European Tour player

So I would look at doing these drills.  For you it's going to feel like the club head works outside your hands on the takeaway, like Rickie Fowler

http://thesandtrap.com/t/61376/5sk-video-thread/54#post_814853

http://thesandtrap.com/t/61376/5sk-video-thread/18#post_804662

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Originally Posted by jordy466 

There's only one problem - when I was swinging like the videos above that I posted - I never sliced the balls. Normally, If I mishit - it would be a fat shot or pushed to the left. The 3 balls that I chipped - The first 2 balls landed 1m directly to the left of the basket and the last ball landed in the basket. My PW in the first frame landed about 2m away from the 110m red flag I was aiming at.

 

but ok - let me upload my current swing and we can compare.

Yes, but you can see from those videos how you would have developed a slice.  Know what I mean?  It means when you took these videos you were squaring the club face with your swing path.  Now it must be opening to the swing path.  Also are you slicing or shanking(hitting off the hosel)?  I am wondering how you would slice a pitch shot(what you are describing as a chip).  Sounds like you might be shanking the ball.

You can shank from any stance, if your club head is coming from over the top. I know from experience.    I was at a range a couple years ago and shanked every single shot.  You should be able to tell by the sound.  Also it is really hard to slice scoring clubs, that is why I wonder if it is not actually a shank or partial shank.  Your feet in these videos look extremely closed.  For short iron shots I would have them at least square, but I like them slightly open to hit a little push to the target.  Look closely at what Mike is telling you and those drills.  Make your takeaway feel like he is describing with the club head outside your hands.  If you can do this it should solve your issue. 

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Originally Posted by jordy466 

There's only one problem - when I was swinging like the videos above that I posted - I never sliced the balls. Normally, If I mishit - it would be a fat shot or pushed to the left. The 3 balls that I chipped - The first 2 balls landed 1m directly to the left of the basket and the last ball landed in the basket. My PW in the first frame landed about 2m away from the 110m red flag I was aiming at.

 

but ok - let me upload my current swing and we can compare.

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Originally Posted by cipher 

Yes, but you can see from those videos how you would have developed a slice.  Know what I mean?  It means when you took these videos you were squaring the club face with your swing path.  Now it must be opening to the swing path.  Also are you slicing or shanking(hitting off the hosel)?  I am wondering how you would slice a pitch shot(what you are describing as a chip).  Sounds like you might be shanking the ball.

Yeah, one of the first things I learned after watching myself on video is how very similar all of the swings are.  For example, you can hit the most perfect beautiful high draw to your target, followed by the ugliest shank, and if you look at each on video, more than likely to the untrained eye, they won't look any different.

So I think cipher is right ... everything that mvmac suggested will apply to you even though you didn't actually hit those shots in the videos poorly. (He's a really good teacher, so I'd pay close attention!) :)

Oh, and one more thing ... for somebody whos only been playing for ONE YEAR, that is a really good swing!  Keep it up.

Originally Posted by jordy466 

There's only one problem - when I was swinging like the videos above that I posted - I never sliced the balls. Normally, If I mishit - it would be a fat shot or pushed to the left. The 3 balls that I chipped - The first 2 balls landed 1m directly to the left of the basket and the last ball landed in the basket. My PW in the first frame landed about 2m away from the 110m red flag I was aiming at.

 

but ok - let me upload my current swing and we can compare.

And you were only hitting 50 meter shots, you won't be able to curve the ball that much from that distance.  Same thing when you're hitting pitching wedges.  Harder to curve the short clubs.  But your tendencies are still there, that's why I made sure to illustrate the direction the club head was moving and how that corresponds to other faults.  Like you said, your misses are pulls which just means you were able to make a correction and get the face to point left enough to match the path.  Not something you want to do when you get into the longer clubs because you'll hit it too low.  And you miss it fat, like I said, wrist angles dumping too soon.  Even though it's a short swing and the shots were ok, the issues are still visible and enough to predict what the effects will be.

Great to hear