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post #55 of 64

A timely post:

http://aimpointgolf.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/i-use-aimpoint-because-i-am-a-feel-player/

 

 

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AimPoint Instruction is feel based. I don’t know how to say it any other way. That’s the fact. Break Prediction, on the other hand, is science. We offer both. We teach the feel in order to effectively use the science. Don’t get me wrong.
post #56 of 64
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Originally Posted by Beachcomber View Post

Clam, are you using Aimpoint?  Just curious, as I know you're an Edel guy now... And most go hand and hand. 

 

No, I'm not using Aimpoint....yet.    I will, because I absolutely believe in the approach and the ability to reduce much of the guess work through physics and proven science.    However, I've been rationing my golf expenses a bit since I joined a startup company a couple months ago and am working without salary right now.   My wife doesn't mind my playing (and I'm doing that a lot), but I'm trying to not run too afoul of her generosity.     I'd join the SoCal group outing but I'll probably be in Asia at that time.  

 

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Originally Posted by logman View Post

Couldn't agree more. And if your happy to accept that you cant determine whether your putt is a 2.5 degree or 4 degree and your stimp can vary between holes etc etc then Physics just becomes Physicsy. I'm not invoking the old garbage in garbage out thing cause that's way to blunt and in accurate. But you get my point?

 

Glad you agree that physics works.    But it seems you're trying to make this a completely digital argument where if Aimpoint cannot deliver a perfect solution to you all wrapped up with a pretty little bow then it must be worthless.    Yes, you can't tell within 0.1 degrees what the exact slope is.   Yes, the stimp can vary slightly between holes.    Yes, the wind might be blowing a bit, as well as other variables.      But what it will do is get you very close to the ball park with much more certainty, reducing the effect of a lot of those variables.    It is still a game of skill, but Aimpoint will augment one's skill with a practical way to take advantage of the physics to make you more effective.     Why is that so difficult to grasp, or perhaps even more important why is this so argumentative?  

post #57 of 64
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Originally Posted by logman View Post

And if your happy to accept that you cant determine whether your putt is a 2.5 degree or 4 degree and your stimp can vary between holes etc etc then Physics just becomes Physicsy.

I realize Logman is in the penalty box, and doesn't listen anyway, but there have been numerous people give the "yeah but the stimp can vary hole to hole" response to why Aimpoint is stupid, so this is for all of them.  First of all, that logic is just a variation of what politicians like to do often, which is to say ... "Well this bill isn't perfect and it won't solve ALL of our problems in one fell swoop, sooooooo f%$k it."  Which, needless to say (but I'm gonna say it anyways :)), is freaking beyond idiotic.

 

1.  Even if the stimp were to vary a bit hole to hole but ... seeing as how the same guys mow the same greens with the same frequency with the same mowers at the same settings on the same days, and its the same type of grass, it's not going to vary by that much at all.

 

2.  Secondly, on a lot of putts, the difference between 1 entire stimp point on an otherwise equal-parameter putt is not as much as you think.  I'm not looking at my chart right now, so this is off memory, but I think the difference in a 10' putt at the most severe slope going directly across the slope is 2 inches.

 

3.  And this is the biggie.  You guys act like learning Aimpoint means forgetting everything you already knew.  You don't have to sell your soul - and along with it, your perception - when you take the class.  If you don't use aimpoint, and you play a course that has these magical, stimp jumping greens, it's still going to take you a hole or two to notice.  You think just because we have a chart, we can't also see that the greens on the course are a little slower or faster than the practice green appeared to be?  We're not robots.  We're just golfers armed with one extra, very powerful tool to help us putt better.

 

And, again, it's all about confidence.  How many times have you heard somebody say that you're better off being confident in your read or club selection than you are in being "right?"  AImpoint just further strengthens that confidence.

post #58 of 64
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

I realize Logman is in the penalty box, and doesn't listen anyway, but there have been numerous people give the "yeah but the stimp can vary hole to hole" response to why Aimpoint is stupid, so this is for all of them.  First of all, that logic is just a variation of what politicians like to do often, which is to say ... "Well this bill isn't perfect and it won't solve ALL of our problems in one fell swoop, sooooooo f%$k it."  Which, needless to say (but I'm gonna say it anyways :)), is freaking beyond idiotic.

1.  Even if the stimp were to vary a bit hole to hole but ... seeing as how the same guys mow the same greens with the same frequency with the same mowers at the same settings on the same days, and its the same type of grass, it's not going to vary by that much at all.

2.  Secondly, on a lot of putts, the difference between 1 entire stimp point on an otherwise equal-parameter putt is not as much as you think.  I'm not looking at my chart right now, so this is off memory, but I think the difference in a 10' putt at the most severe slope going directly across the slope is 2 inches.

3.  And this is the biggie.  You guys act like learning Aimpoint means forgetting everything you already knew.  You don't have to sell your soul - and along with it, your perception - when you take the class.  If you don't use aimpoint, and you play a course that has these magical, stimp jumping greens, it's still going to take you a hole or two to notice.  You think just because we have a chart, we can't also see that the greens on the course are a little slower or faster than the practice green appeared to be?  We're not robots.  We're just golfers armed with one extra, very powerful tool to help us putt better.

And, again, it's all about confidence.  How many times have you heard somebody say that you're better off being confident in your read or club selection than you are in being "right?"  AImpoint just further strengthens that confidence.

You forgot:

4. There isn't any other putting method that can detect changes in stimp from green to green (and if there is, that can be integrated into AimPoint). If a non-AimPointer can realize that a certain green is probably running a tiny bit faster since it has spent the entire day baking in the hot sun and is abnormally crusty, so can someone who uses AimPoint. There's no mutual exclusivity here.
post #59 of 64
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Originally Posted by Clambake View Post

No, I'm not using Aimpoint....yet.    I will, because I absolutely believe in the approach and the ability to reduce much of the guess work through physics and proven science.    However, I've been rationing my golf expenses a bit since I joined a startup company a couple months ago and am working without salary right now.   My wife doesn't mind my playing (and I'm doing that a lot), but I'm trying to not run too afoul of her generosity.     I'd join the SoCal group outing but I'll probably be in Asia at that time.  

No worries about missing out on this group outing... There will be more in the future.  We're trying to make it a quarterly event.  Talks were going back and forth and we are actually looking at doing the 3rd event this Summer in your neck of the woods.... San Diego.

 

And good luck with the new gig...  Hopefully it works out for you!

post #60 of 64
I have done aimpoint and decided not to use it. Like people said above its not for everyone. I did learn from it and took some stuff away from it that I still keep in mind. There is no genious in green reading its extremely simple as long as you practice your speed so you can picture your ball rolling past the cup the same distance everytime...that's the only thing u really need to know. With tht being said I would never tell anyone not to go to an aimpoint school if given the opportunity
post #61 of 64
There aren't any Aimpoint teachers near me. I wonder why they haven't put together a DVD package for folks to buy. I'm sure personal instruction would be better, but couldn't the method be effectively conveyed through DVD's?

I'm curious about this as it's something I would consider purchasing.
post #62 of 64
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Originally Posted by boil3rmak3r View Post

I'm sure personal instruction would be better, but couldn't the method be effectively conveyed through DVDs?

In a word: no.
post #63 of 64
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post


In a word: no.


yeah, thats what ive surmised.  ive done some looking around and tried to learn as much as i can (just learning to use my feet has done a lot) but i know that ill be in the dark compared to taking a class.

post #64 of 64
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Originally Posted by logman View Post

example 3: a COMPLETE misread of a green followed by the WORST execution of a putt ever combining to sink a 20 footer......NICE!

 

Sounds like you would benefit from learning AimPoint.

 

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