Getting my weight forward.......WHY - Page 8

I would agree with that, I think the issue is with the overemphasis on "weight forward", and how that instruction leads to problems for many golfers.

When I start my swing the weight is over the back foot. When I finish it is over the front foot. However at impact my feel is that I am still over the back foot. In reality it may be more like 50/50 but the contact and distance are good. I don't need to be forward at impact, and not thinking about being forward simplifies the swing. For me at least.

Perhaps it might not be the "best" way but my point was that it works. Many here are stating that it ia virtually impossible to hit a solid shot without weight forward, or even if you do the ball won't go anywhere. Neither of those things are true.

I am still new to the swing and pretty new to golf overall. I am not claiming to be a great golfer. However there are people using this same method who are low-single digit handicaps or even scratch. The lack of weight forward is not an obstacle to good scoring.

Again you heard a lot of the same reactions to SnT, people said you couldn't possibly get any power, it's a reverse pivot, etc. Clearly those doubters were wrong and had never actually tried the swing.

Logman,

 

Your swing is very similar to a lot of hockey players I have seen use with some success.  I use hockey more than baseball because the puck is on the ground.  If it works for you, great.  But for the rest of us, it may not work. I played ice hockey and although it can generate power, there is more power in the swings that professional golfers use (apart from Tommy Gainey).

 

Stoverny,

 

You continually challenge weight forward as an important key to a good golf swing regardless of all the evidence that virtually every professional golfer, past and present, displays this key in there swing.  If it works for you fine.  But again, we've seen the 1000s of videos of current and past professional golfers.  It is obvious.  

 

I don't want to be just a 10 handicap.  I want to be better.  And the only way to get better is to work on the keys to better and more consistent ball striking and short game that the best player display.  When I didn't know about these keys, I was an 18 handicap.  Working on them the last two years I have come down to a 10.  Weight forward at impact was the big key to that improvement.

Happy Gilmore had significant weight forward.

He hit it something like 450 yds and straight

 

I'm just sayin'
 

 

This thread is not about your wrists. Final notice.

 

It is, and I've told you why now several times, and per your typical approach, you simply ignore it and continue to believe steadfastly in what you think without actually being able to articulate any valid or logical reasons why.

 

 

 

* Or a substitute lever, but again, no further posts about anyone's wrists are allowed in this thread. They're...

 

 

Oh for ****'s sake we're arguing about your ****ing FEEL now? You lose your place in this discussion when you bring THAT to the table. And "in reality" it's likely NOWHERE NEAR 50/50. I think you'd be surprised, but at this point, I'm no longer interested in what you have to say based on your "feels" during YOUR swing. We have data. You have "feels."

 

You don't get to say what's true or not when you're basing what you say on your FEEL.

 

 

And it turns out that S&T was wrong that there isn't a weight transfer (pressure transfer) in the swing.

To benefit the most you really need an objective approach, listen to fact and look at what research shows. You might FEEL that we are being subjective towards your swing but we are actually being objective and knowing research and facts about the swing and understand your model is not the best model.

Look i mentioned feel because i have never videotaped my swing and it is possible that I am not doing the Heard swing exactly the way he prescribes in his book and video. I think I am, but I allow that I might be doing it wrong.

However in his book Heard states explicitly that the weight remains back until AFTER contact. And the photos in the book and the video footage backs it up. I am trying to copy his swing as best I can.

Don't really understand your anger towards any of this. Pretty uncalled for actually, I've been polite throughout. There are effective swings that don't emphasize weight forward, that has been my one and only real point in chiming in on this thread in the first place.

 

I haven't seen any video of this swing, and if his weight is truly back it's not a swing used by anyone on the PGA Tour.

 

 

 

Who are you even talking to? Nobody's displaying any "anger" so far as I can tell.

 

I've yet to see an effective swing that doesn't feature "weight forward" at impact.

 

 

I don't know, maybe anger is the wrong word?  How about "needlessly profane and combative"?

 

Well, then we'd disagree on both profane and needlessly combative.

 

1) Asterisks are not profane. :)

2) It's not needlessly combative because there's a BIG need to shut down the "my feel is valid data" line of thinking. It's not. It's pointless, and it was appropriate to shut down that line of thinking and discussion quickly. In discussions like this, come with data, not feels.

 

P.S. As you can imagine, quoting is a handy way of making it clear to whom you're talking.

Hi Erik,

 I've have just had a lesson last week and my pro said my biggest problem is getting my hips to fire and my weight foward. When I do both of these things, I hit what very closely resembles a good golf shot. When I don't I slice and hook and do all shorts of shitty shots. I just wish I could be more consistent with this as it makes my game a heap better. I guessed practice  is the only way I'm going to make this happen 

 

That's funny, the bold part.

 

Keep it up!

Keep working on it and it will get better and better.  Look at this thread for some practice tips.  You can work on it without a ball or club too.  Even the Pros rehearse this while they play.  You can sometimes see them do it without a club while someone else is preparing to take a shot.

 

http://thesandtrap.com/t/54840/simple-specific-slow-short-and-success-the-five-s-s-of-great-practice

Thanks ill have a look right now. Night shift and nothing to do = golf site trawling and random golf buys. This might keep it down a bit 

That it does for any tour swing.
Anyone saying things differently dont understand weight shift.

The weight shifts during the swing so before impact the weight is on the trailing side.

past impact the weight has shifted to the left side.

Moving the hips laterally isnt enough.
Tour pro´s also hit it short due to them dont utilize weight shift effectively as they loose accuracy if they do so.

What?

I second the "what?"

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Thirded.

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