Originally Posted by Mordan
1) I'd recommend starting with regular just because we don't know what your swing will be like as it develops. That way at least you won't be too far off, if you go stiff and in reality would be best fit by senior then you're really going to struggle to get the best out of the clubs. And if you're really best suited by stiff shafts but get regular it's not the end of the world.
2) Mizuno produces some excellent clubs for beginners. Ping produces some excellent clubs for very skilled golfers (including tour players). You're just simply mistaken if you think a Mizuno MP-64 is somehow a "better" club than a Ping G25. The Mizunos aren't recommended for lower handicaps because they're better quality, and better players need better quality clubs, it's just that the swing/impact profile best suited to MP-64s is found almost exclusively in low handicap golfers. The swing/impact profile suited to G25s is much more broad due to the way they're designed, not their quality.
3) I play Mizunos irons, they're great clubs. But all the big brands produce great quality irons. Picking a brand is very much about personal preference, finding the right club within that brand is about matching your swing.
1) Yup, I too happen to believe that regardless of the outcome of a fitting with respect to swing type or speed, it makes more sense for someone who is an absolute beginner, especially an aging beginner like me, to start-off with 'regular' (or perhaps even 'senior') flex, but with 'regular being the safest bet. Its just common sense.
2) I didn't mean to imply that all Ping irons were of lesser quality than Mizuno or that Mizuno was better-suited to pros. What I meant to say was that I (personally) preferred the look, weight, feel and swing of almost all Mizunos to the Ping G20, G25, i20 varieties of irons that I saw, and that the 64s and 69s in particular appeared to be of slightly superior craftsmanship. The comparably positioned or priced Ping's (at least to my eye) were of a fundamentally different design and too 'busy' in terms of graphics and gadgetry. However, I fully understand that this doesn't necessarily mean that the Mizuno brand makes the 'right' club for me (as a beginner) or even for many of the pros - I understand the distinctions.
3) I'm not quite sure what to make of this statement. To me, it certainly follows that most of the 'best' (i.e., most popular/most respected) irons are probably made by the 'big brands', but I'm not sure that all of the big brands make great irons. In other words, I'm not sure that all models of Pings are all models of Mizuno are necessarily of "great quality", and I'm not sure if that's even what you meant? But for me, at least based on what I've been learning, that grouping would probably be a little too inclusive. For example, Taylormade is a very well-recognized brand, perhaps one of the top 3 or 4 in all of golf (it was my father-in-laws favorite), and they certainly make irons including their high-end 'RocketBladez' which are hundreds more than the best Mizunos, yet you won't find a lotta love for RocketBladez out there. Don't ask me why, because to me and my amateur eye, they look and feel great! Who knows?