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Well I've got them... The S * + ^ € s. please talk me off the ledge.

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
So I'm playing yesterday, I bogey the first 3 holes... I kind of get it going and find myself 3 over going into 15. Suddenly... Bam!!!! I waste a perfect 280 yard drive by shanking my wedge. Now I'm 2 more rounds in and every full wedge is a shank. Please help, it's sucking the fun out of the game :(
post #2 of 28

Shanks are caused by one thing, bringing the hozel into play. So think about why that happens.

 

1) your standing to close to the ball, which is possible.

2) your bringing the club from the outside in, which moves the sweet spot outside the ball, which brings the hozel into play.

3) a swing fault hat forces your hands outward towards the ball. Like, loosing your spine tilt, bringing your hips towards the ball. this would force your hands out.

 

So here's what i say you do. When you practice, take your stance and set up to the ball. Take your bottom hand off the club, and form a fist. Put that between the butt end of the club and you. If you can't fit your hand between you and the club, your to close. It could me as little as a ball length to close. but that's enough for a shank. You could even get a small stick, something that you can swing over, and put it between you and the ball, were the hands should be, so you can check to make sure your not to close to the ball that way.

 

As for the over the top move, there is plenty of information on the forum to get you started coming from the inside more. Look at the instruction video's on the 5 keys. Great information there on how to get the club coming from the inside.

post #3 of 28

Also possible is a sway.For that is a easy drill, at adress turn both knees out, like there locked. This eliminates the sway drastically.

Other than that to close to the ball might be it.

Happens more often with wedge play.

post #4 of 28

The good news:

1. They will probably go away.

2. Almost anything you change could make them go away. Farther from the ball, closer to the ball (yep), trying to hit the toe, trying to lead with the hosel into the ball (yep), and has been mentioned sway and spine angle.

 

Put some masking tape on the club face so you can see each impact and hit balls into a net until you get your confidence back. Putting another ball that you don't intend to hit a few inches outside of the ball you do intend to hit might help. TST coaches made a video using that technique as a "cure".

 

Fixing the underlying swing flaw is the more permanent answer of course but since people were normally hitting the ball OK with those flaws before they got the shanks it's a usually mostly confidence issue. The more scared you are of the hosel the worse it gets (a vicious cycle).

post #5 of 28

Sweet spot is getting "outside" the golf ball.

 

That's it. Could be any number of reasons why you're doing that, but… we can't really guess at that, either.

 

post #6 of 28

A common mistake is that many amateurs are at a nice position at address, but in between the backswing and downswing, they move forward towards the ball and in turn, the ball hits the hosel.

 

A good drill to try if you think you might be moving towards the ball is thinking about following through with your weight going to your left heel.

 

Or another one, take your setup, put a chair behind you so the back of the chair is maybe an inch or two away from your butt.  On the back swing, make sure your right butt cheek makes contact with the chair, and during the downswing, make sure your left butt cheek makes contact ---if you're right handed golfer obviously.

post #7 of 28

I play a shank, so what I do to make it work is aim way left. So the shank curves toward the target. It looks weird, but it gets the job done. To play a shank draw, slightly hood the club at address

post #8 of 28
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Originally Posted by kw purp View Post

I play a shank, so what I do to make it work is aim way left. So the shank curves toward the target. It looks weird, but it gets the job done. To play a shank draw, slightly hood the club at address

Lol!
Shank draw sounds like a Johnny Miller term...
post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by pbillaa View Post

So I'm playing yesterday, I bogey the first 3 holes... I kind of get it going and find myself 3 over going into 15. Suddenly... Bam!!!! I waste a perfect 280 yard drive by shanking my wedge. Now I'm 2 more rounds in and every full wedge is a shank. Please help, it's sucking the fun out of the game :(

 

 

I feel your pain brutha.   It has been well documented in this forum that I fight the same demons.  Many things can cause a shank and it's impossible to diagnose the cause in this forum.  I've fought this problem for many years and I'm still left scratching my head. I'll be playing along great and them WHAM........it happens.  It may not happen every round or not even once every few rounds, but it happens just enough that it stays in my head.   I think I have it licked, but it's still too soon to tell.  

 

It can be caused by both setup and a swing flaw or any combo of both....sheesh. It's possible that I may be both the best and/or worst person to ask for advice...LOL

post #10 of 28
When the shanks appear out of nowhere it grabs your attention. One of the causes is an early release in the impact zone allowing clubhead to lead hands. Try soft punch shots with handle/grip leading the way - drag the handle through, its a crisp, flush feeling. Then turn it up a notch with more power. Hit 3/4 shots with this in mind with handle always leading the way. The shanks will disappear as quickly as they initially surfaced.
post #11 of 28

I don't think anybody here is qualified to give advice on the subject...including myself.  LOL

post #12 of 28
Thread Starter 

Well I've got them... The S * + ^

I tried to work them out today... No dice!!! I was having success starting my swing from the top tho. I have a lesson with my pro on Sunday, I'll post updates after.
post #13 of 28

What does your divot look like when you shank it? 

post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post

Sweet spot is getting "outside" the golf ball.

 

That's it. Could be any number of reasons why you're doing that, but… we can't really guess at that, either.

 

 

Yep do this

post #15 of 28
Thread Starter 

Well I've got them... The S * + ^

I just watched that 5 keys video... It's much more complicated than that. I took video today and I'm still coming from the inside. I believe from my front camera angel that I'm sliding instead of turning, trust me... Every shank is not caused from an over the top move.
post #16 of 28
Thread Starter 

Well I've got them... The S * + ^

I just watched that 5 keys video... It's much more complicated than that. I took video today and I'm still coming from the inside. I believe from my front camera angel that I'm sliding instead of turning, trust me... Every shank is not caused from an over the top move.
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by pbillaa View Post

I just watched that 5 keys video... It's much more complicated than that. I took video today and I'm still coming from the inside. I believe from my front camera angel that I'm sliding instead of turning, trust me... Every shank is not caused from an over the top move.

Every shank is caused by the hosel hitting the ball. It ain't more complicated than that. If you can perform the drill in the video, shanks will go* away. End of story.

*they might not stay away. If they come back, drill some more.
post #18 of 28

There is a difference in shanking a few balls and having "The Shanks". All jokes aside the most serious cases are exactly like Steve Sax disease (Google it).

 

As in the cases of Steve Sax, Steve Blass, Chuck Knoblock, Rick Ankiel, Dale Murphy, and many others it's the most simple and most repetitive act that is effected. They could throw a ball from center field to home plate with no problem at all but couldn't throw a ball from second to first or from home plate to the pitcher or from the mound to the plate like they had done so many thousands of times since they were kids (and any 10 year old can do).

 

In most cases a change in delivery or a change in position "fixed" the problem.

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